Self-interest June 2008

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Re: [self-interest] A more colourful self...
by Russell Allen 17 Jun '08

17 Jun '08

I deployed a Squeak app to a classroom of uni students back in 2001 (2002?) and the major issue wasn't the colours so much as the lack of consistency in the way the gui worked (and the general flakiness of my code :) Re themeing the outliners, I separated out some of my changes, but the outliner system needs a full theme engine to be written which is too much like hard work at the moment. Russell On 17/06/2008, at 3:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > Russell, > > Morphic did become far more colorful when it moved in Squeak. I liked > this but many people were very critical of it and some even refused to > even try Squeak because of the way it looked. > > I didn't browse through your code so you might have already done this, > but a common way to handle this kind of thing is to create "theme" > objects that can be queried for the various colors and other kinds of > details. This allows changes to be grouped together. > > -- Jecel > >

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A more colourful self...
by Russell Allen 16 Jun '08

16 Jun '08

It is now winter, and grey is getting me down; so I made a module to make my self snapshot more colourful. This turned out to involve wading through the outliner code which is to me a maze of twisty little passages all alike. I got eaten by many grues (and also discovered that the text editing code only handles monospaced fonts) Anyway, I got from this: to this: which I like better. The module files into the 4.3 bareBones.snap, and may do strange things. Put it in enhancements/ if you feel like trying it out; any pointers gratefully accepted. Having fun, Russell

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Re: [self-interest] Remove modules?
by Russell Allen 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Thanks Jecel. Sounds like something I'll have to come back to. On 14/06/2008, at 5:54 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > Russell Allen wrote on Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:39:17 +1000: > > So I have worked out that I can load my module with: > > bootstrap read: 'webserver' from: 'applications' > > and file it out with: > > modules webserver fileOut > > Is there any way to remove my module from the image, reverting to > a nice, clean webserver-less image? > > I don't think this has been implemented. Given the annotations that > every module has, this should be a lot easier to do than when you file > in stuff with random expressions. Though a single module doesn't save > the values it modified when loading, if you could look at all other > modules and the initial values they define you should be able to > figure > out how to restore stuff. But this would require knowing the exact > order > in while all present modules were loaded in case multiple modules > changed the same thing with different values. > > This, of course, is the general case. For the typical case a new > module > only adds stuff without changing what was there before. Removing that > should be pretty simple. > > -- Jecel > >

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Self@Sourceforge CVS Tree
by russell.allen23 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

Hi guys, Looking through the cvs tree at sourceforge I see that it includes a bunch of stuff not released elsewhere (afaik) including PEP and webBrowser. Is this intended to be released under the MIT licence that the rest of Self is under or is this just an artifact of all the stuff being dumped into CVS? Also I note the makefile put in at bin/linux about 5 months ago - does this mean the VM will now compile under linux? Cheers, Russell

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Self-interest June 2008