Self-interest October 2003

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OOPSLA 2003
by Steve Dekorte 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Just noticed that Dave is giving what looks like a really interesting talk at OOPSLA 2003: http://oopsla.acm.org/oopsla2003/files/key-4.html Any hope for a protos workshop this year? Everything seems to be about design patterns or Agile programming. Borrrrrring. :-) Cheers, Steve OSX freeware and shareware: http://www.dekorte.com/downloads.html

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Self implementation using Smalltalk
by Leandro Quiroga 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Hello, I'm studing computer science and I have to implent a self enviroment with visualworks. Do you know where can I find information?? Do you know about some implementation for Windows?? Thanks Leandro

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Self OS X jaguar
by christian.hresko 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

okay, i just installed jaguar, and downloaded all the latest Self 'stuff.' for the life of me i can't get self to work. this happened before. if i try to use the SelfDroplet, i get: Last login: Tue Jan 14 01:14:15 on ttyp1 cd "${SELF_WORKING_DIR}"/objects; ../vm/mac_osx/vmWelcome to Darwin! _project/build/Self.app/Contents/MacOS/Self -s "/Users/chresko/Desktop/Self/objects/Demo.snap" [chresko:~] chresko% cd "${SELF_WORKING_DIR}"/objects; ../vm/mac_osx/vm_project/build/Self.app/Contents/MacOS/Self -s "/Users/chresko/Desktop/Self/objects/Demo.snap" SELF_WORKING_DIR: Undefined variable. if i launch self from the command line, and try to do the the _RunScript deal, i get numerous errors which i don't understand. how on earth do you get self working under OS X, jaguar? if i edit the applescript by replacing SELF_WORKING_DIR with the correct directory, it still doesn't work. all of my self folders/directories are on my desktop. if someone could point the way, i'd appreciate it. thanks, christian

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Re: [self-interest] Re: Trouble running Self/x86
by harald＠gliebe.de 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

Paul, I'm afraid the cygwin version of Self is currently broken - probably because of some changes in memory allocation within cygwin.dll (cygwin 1.3.19 is the last version I'v used successfully). Unfortunatly I'm not able to spend more time on this problem at the moment. To try out Self you could try to go back 1.3.19 (I'm not sure if you can still find it). Alternatively, to try the more stable Linux version without installing Linux, is to use Knoppix, a bootable CD image with a fully configured Linux-System: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html Regards, Harald Paul Chapman <yahoo(a)igblan.com> schrieb am 15.04.2003, 11:42:35: > Jecel, > > > What is the "-c" option? The versions I use don't have that. > > Not sure. > > > What happens if you run Self without any snapshot at all? Do you > get to > > the VM# prompt ok? > > Didn't know you could do that. I get the same error message. I > guess it's not a snapshot problem, then. > > > I hope that someone figures out your problem so you can try Self - > it is > > certainly worth looking into even if you then decide to use > something > > else. > > I've been itching to play with it ever since first discovering it a > year ago. > > Cheers, Paul > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Self UI question
by Steve Dekorte 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

When clicking on an method slot, a method inspector opens containing the source code for the method. How do you then actually inspect the method *object* then? Likewise for Strings, etc. -- Steve

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Problems running Self on a IBook
by Friedrich Dominicus 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

running under MacOS X. Installation works but the opening screen says Version 4.1.5 (although I downloaded the 4.2 version is that still ok?) I can start the Demo with Self -s Demo.snap and I can navigate on the screen but I can not use my keyboard, it simply does not work. It just beeps. There are a few things I do not understand. I git a few warnings and other messages on the console here's an except: Self VM warning: _allocatd went negative Self VM warning: A one-work branch may not span the gap from the .... Self VM warning: ignoring failed Aple even: , -1708 VM version: 4.1.10 ?? Self 5 finger: Mac: no such user finger: unkown host: this sigchild ignored Well I do not no what the messages mean but obviously something is wrong. Does anyone have encountered simular problems and/or does someone know a work around? Regards Friedrich

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Self-interest October 2003