Self-interest June 1997

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Re: The Subjective Prototype
by James Noble 04 Jun '97

04 Jun '97

Jecel > I have just found the ECOOP96 papers at > http://linus.socs.uts.edu.au/~cotar/proto/programme.html > Great stuff - I wish someone had announced it more widely. I'm glad you liked the workshop site. The position papers and workshop report from this year's workshop (which is happening on Monday at ECOOP in Finland) will appear nearby in due course. James

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tinySelf speed
by jecel＠lsi.usp.br 04 Jun '97

04 Jun '97

I haven't finished debugging tinySelf yet, so I can only execute simple expressions with it (like adding a few points or calculating a factorial). The results I have obtained so far indicate that tinySelf is about 600 to 2000 times slower than Self. This is actually much better than I expected, because this implementation is really horrible and creates new mirrors all the time. Since Squeak runs on top of itself about 620 times slower and is a pretty clean interpreter, I thought my results would be worse. -- Jecel

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The Subjective Prototype
by jecel＠lsi.usp.br 03 Jun '97

03 Jun '97

I have just found the ECOOP96 papers at http://linus.socs.uts.edu.au/~cotar/proto/programme.html Great stuff - I wish someone had announced it more widely. I found Randy's subjective paper particularly interesting, though I didn't understand the part of having to search layers or objects first. This seems a little related to SmalltalkAgent's namespaces thing that I mentioned here some time ago. I didn't find any details on that, so I don't know how similar it is. I have been interested in viewpoint oriented programming for a long time - ever since I noticed that even in a language with single inheritance an object can have many children (extensions, in a language that allows data inheritance as Self does). Now I am going to read the other papers.... -- Jecel

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Self-interest June 1997