Self-interest August 2003

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OOPSLA 2003
by Steve Dekorte 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Just noticed that Dave is giving what looks like a really interesting talk at OOPSLA 2003: http://oopsla.acm.org/oopsla2003/files/key-4.html Any hope for a protos workshop this year? Everything seems to be about design patterns or Agile programming. Borrrrrring. :-) Cheers, Steve OSX freeware and shareware: http://www.dekorte.com/downloads.html

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Self OS X jaguar
by christian.hresko 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

okay, i just installed jaguar, and downloaded all the latest Self 'stuff.' for the life of me i can't get self to work. this happened before. if i try to use the SelfDroplet, i get: Last login: Tue Jan 14 01:14:15 on ttyp1 cd "${SELF_WORKING_DIR}"/objects; ../vm/mac_osx/vmWelcome to Darwin! _project/build/Self.app/Contents/MacOS/Self -s "/Users/chresko/Desktop/Self/objects/Demo.snap" [chresko:~] chresko% cd "${SELF_WORKING_DIR}"/objects; ../vm/mac_osx/vm_project/build/Self.app/Contents/MacOS/Self -s "/Users/chresko/Desktop/Self/objects/Demo.snap" SELF_WORKING_DIR: Undefined variable. if i launch self from the command line, and try to do the the _RunScript deal, i get numerous errors which i don't understand. how on earth do you get self working under OS X, jaguar? if i edit the applescript by replacing SELF_WORKING_DIR with the correct directory, it still doesn't work. all of my self folders/directories are on my desktop. if someone could point the way, i'd appreciate it. thanks, christian

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Re: [self-interest] Re: Trouble running Self/x86
by harald＠gliebe.de 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

Paul, I'm afraid the cygwin version of Self is currently broken - probably because of some changes in memory allocation within cygwin.dll (cygwin 1.3.19 is the last version I'v used successfully). Unfortunatly I'm not able to spend more time on this problem at the moment. To try out Self you could try to go back 1.3.19 (I'm not sure if you can still find it). Alternatively, to try the more stable Linux version without installing Linux, is to use Knoppix, a bootable CD image with a fully configured Linux-System: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html Regards, Harald Paul Chapman <yahoo(a)igblan.com> schrieb am 15.04.2003, 11:42:35: > Jecel, > > > What is the "-c" option? The versions I use don't have that. > > Not sure. > > > What happens if you run Self without any snapshot at all? Do you > get to > > the VM# prompt ok? > > Didn't know you could do that. I get the same error message. I > guess it's not a snapshot problem, then. > > > I hope that someone figures out your problem so you can try Self - > it is > > certainly worth looking into even if you then decide to use > something > > else. > > I've been itching to play with it ever since first discovering it a > year ago. > > Cheers, Paul > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Slate 0.1 released
by Brian T Rice 02 Aug '03

02 Aug '03

Here it is, everyone! A first official release. It's not perfect, but it's 0.1, and I'm tired of fiddling with it. There are some issues with the binaries we've posted, so I'm mostly recommending that people use another CL besides ECL if they want to really experiment with Slate. Anyway, here is the big overview included in NEWS in the archives: - An initial named release of Slate, with an included documented build procedure for producing stand-alone executables (and loadable binary libraries out of Slate sources). - Slate's implementation is still based upon Common Lisp, although it performs some compilation, so has acceptable performance for basic testing and evaluation. - The current libraries include file access, extensive collection and stream support, and many other basic libraries. - There is no support yet for concurrency or system event-handling. - The manual covers all language features and issues in sufficient detail now for beginners to grasp, and covers all libraries which are not subject to design changes. - The graphics / interface architecture is included in outline form, but is not yet functional. - The bootstrap process is incomplete, but in a presentable state so that you can see the intended run-time architecture and optimizations. I've put up an entry on the Freshmeat site for Slate, under: http://www.freshmeat.net/projects/slatesmalltalk/ so that people can track it without being involved on the mailing list. Our home page, http://slate.tunes.org/ now has links to the 3 different package types available. All of them include full sources, and an HTML copy of the online manual under doc/manual/. -- Brian T. Rice LOGOS Research and Development http://tunes.org/~water/

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Self-interest August 2003