Self-interest February 1999

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Re: Self on Linux
by Gordon Cichon 10 Sep '99

10 Sep '99

Hi, my vacation is over, I have to continue working on something else. Therfore I have less time now to continue with the Self port. I think that there is not missing too much to finally get a running system (with all the applications :-)). It all comes down to the stack walking code. In order to give others the chance to participate, too, I have put the stuff on the web server. Everybody who likes to see Self on Linux as soon as possible, and knows how to use a debugger is invited to help fixing the remaining problems. I will continue, too, of course. Maybe, I also made some mistakes... http://www.cichon.de/self/ -gordon -- ---------------------------------------------------- Gordon Cichon email: Gordon(a)Cichon.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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Re: Self on Windows
by Jecel Assumpcao Jr 24 Feb '99

24 Feb '99

cwardell(a)skila.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is their current any implementation of Self for the Wintel environment? > I have been looking for quite a bit and have not come up with anything. > > Thanks, > Charlie There are two plans for it, but no timetables yet. Douglas Atique has been studying the Self 4 virtual machine sources for the past few months with the intention of porting them to Windows. It would be easier to first port Self to some Unix on the PC (so only the compilers need to be changed, not the OS and graphics primitives) and then port that to Win32. Gordon Cichon has done most of the work for the first part and has made available a partially working Self for Linux: http://www.cichon.de/self/ The second project is my own tinySelf. It isn't finished yet and currently only runs on top of Self 4 (and so needs a Sparcstation). When it is done, it will be ported to the PC. The first port will be to Linux, then to the bare hardware and finally to the Win32 platform as well. http://www.lsi.usp.br/~jecel/tiny.html Finally, while it won't be specific to the Wintel architecture, you might be able to use the JSelf implementation: http://www.ConsultAr.com/JSelf -- Jecel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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No Subject
by jbgarcia＠pi.seinv.uvigo.es 22 Feb '99

22 Feb '99

Hi, SELFers !! I'm having trouble installing Self for Linux by Gordon Cichon. First of all, it is mandatory to install on your /home directory ? Once I made the variables, and type make on ../bin subdirectory, the Makefile ONLY says:"Locks overcomed" (or similar), and, as you can imagine, the next step doesn't work. Is anybody there that could help me ? Thank you in advance ! :-) Jose ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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Self on Windows
by cwardell＠skila.com 18 Feb '99

18 Feb '99

Hi all, Is their current any implementation of Self for the Wintel environment? I have been looking for quite a bit and have not come up with anything. Thanks, Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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Announcing mySelf
by Stefan Matthias Aust 17 Feb '99

17 Feb '99

Hi! I've set up a web page for my first version of ``mySelf´´, my Self parser and simulator written in Smalltalk! If you like, check out http://freeweb.digiweb.com/computers/sma/ MySelf works both for VisualWorks Smalltalk and Squeak, however the Squeak port is really crude. As Squeak's syntax unfortunately doesn't conform with the "standard", I had to work around some problems, mainly the fact that "_" isn't a valid character in message names. Therefore, I recommend VisualWorks NC, which is also _much_ faster. Happy New Year! bye -- Stefan Matthias Aust // Are you ready to discover the twilight zone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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No Subject
by jbgarcia＠pi.seinv.uvigo.es 15 Feb '99

15 Feb '99

Hi, all ! I'm a beginner in Self, with a general interest in prototype object languages. This is just a salute message, but I have a first question about Self: It is possible to programme WITHOUT the graphical environment, I mena, just giving a Self source text file ? Thank you in advance, jose PD: I'm noticed about the porting efforts to Linux: what about Win32 platforms ?Is there any attempt to port Self to Win32 ? (There is only a question, don't be offended ;-D) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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Re: Self on Linux
by Gordon Cichon 08 Feb '99

08 Feb '99

datique(a)pcs.usp.br wrote: > When I first thought of having Self run on an Intel platform, I thought of Windows, which was the system I had then. Then, I noticed that it would be too much work at once to bring all the Unix facilities to Windows (I tried the excellent Cygwin32 and mingw32 ports of gcc, but that was not enough). Then I thought of having Self on SCO OpenServer, of which I had a noncommercial copy. As things were not easy, I cut all down to the smallest step I could think of. And that was Solaris x86. > It looks like Gordon has solved the biggest problems of the port on Linux, but now I have spent the last six months studying the inner workings of the Self system and I think it's not time to stop. I always wanted to learn how such a great system works. And who knows what else can be achieved when more people try different solutions to the same problem... Maybe we could get earlier to working system if we share our results. How did you handle the stuff with the code generator? What did you do with the stack frame? Do you think, recompile.c or convert.c have to be functional as long as SIC is disabled? -gordon -- ---------------------------------------------------- Gordon Cichon email: Gordon(a)Cichon.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/self-interest Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

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Self-interest February 1999