Self-interest September 2001

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aspects and Self
by Albertina Lourenci 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

> Dear Selfers: > > Finally I think I understand what AspectJ and HyperJ means. > I would like you kindly to improve my reasoning. > AspectJ and HyperJ are different ways to modify existent classes. > The former deals with in-place-modification and destroys the > original class and the latter performs changes > in duplicates of the original class but preserves the original class. > However all these modifications happens at the level of code > implementation (compile time or runtime - I do not know exactly). > > Most examples dealing with aspects are based on distribution > and persistence and concurrency control and communication systems. > So my question is: can we deal with aspects in the same way one > deals with separation of concerns? > For me separation of concerns is something that starts at the > domain level and isomorphically would have a code reasoning > structures called aspects or is it HyperJ 's separation of concerns > that would be isomorphic? > Indeed aspects are concerned with crosscutting concerns. > I need help here. > > And of course I want to know if Self implements these stuff > better or if they are mechanisms that are gracefully dealt with > due to delegation's properties. > Best wishes > Albertina > > --------------534322CCCFE8F2C9BECC19B7 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="lourenci.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Albertina Lourenci > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="lourenci.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Lourenci;Albertina > tel;fax:+55123031 4574 > tel;home:+55113818 5362/ 3813-1419 > tel;work:Laboratory of Integrated Systems - Polytechnic School USP > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > url:http://www.lsi.usp.br/~lourenci > org:Laboratory of Integrated Systems - Polytechnic School;Department of Electronic Systems Engineering > adr:;;Av. Prof. Luciano Gualberto, Trav 3 # 158;São Paulo ;SP;05508-900;Brazil > version:2.1 > email;internet:lourenci@lsi.usp.br > title:PHD in Architecture and Urbanism > note:I am buiilding a prototype-based object oriented knowledge systems to generate sustainable cities > fn:Albertina Lourenci > end:vcard > > --------------534322CCCFE8F2C9BECC19B7--

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Smalltalk implementation in Self
by Todd Nathan 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Hello all, I saw Davids Demo on tape last year (it was in 96 or 97 filmed and made available) and was impressed but clearly see how it works that the Smalltalk was layered on top of the behavioural system of Self. So, where is the limited implementation of ST on top of SELF? I would like to load the snapshot and see it work for myself. Thanks! \t --- Todd Nathan SenseTalk(tm) Guy Back On Solid Ground

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Re: [self-interest] OSX?
by cramakrishnan＠acm.org 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Steve Dekorte writes: > > I know there is a carbonized version, but is anyone working on a native > OSX port? It's been discussed, but I know I haven't yet started doing the things I was hoping to do. Dave, have you made any changes towards this? I'd be interested in getting this effort going again! - sekhar -- C. Ramakrishnan cramakrishnan(a)acm.org

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Q: does SELF run on WinTel hardware/software
by Todd Nathan 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Hello, just a nifty little idea? I don't have time to port, yet thought I would ask to see if others had or are thinking of porting SELF to other platforms. Linux? I'm up for anything other than Mac these days. Nothign personal, I'm just going the Linux route and don't want Mac any more. Thanks! \t --- Todd Nathan SenseTalk(tm) Guy Back On Solid Ground

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Self-interest September 2001