[self-interest] Lessons learnt from the Self archive

David Ungar ungar at me.com
Thu Jun 16 04:38:55 UTC 2016

Thanks, Jecel. Indeed, yes.

- David

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 2:29 PM, 'Jecel Assumpcao Jr.' jecel at merlintec.com [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Bystroushaak,
> just a little historical context:
> in the early years most people who wanted to play with Self did not have
> access to a Sun workstation and so were limited to reading papers about
> it. I was lucky that my local university let me use their machines.
> One result was that the papers gave people ideas for their own
> languages, of which I think only Io (via NewtonScript) and Javascript
> had any impact.
> The second thing that happened was that Sun decided to kill all non Java
> languages, including Self and Tcl. This coincided with lots of
> additional information about Self 4 and its graphical user interface
> being released through ECOOP95 talks and workshops. So some people who
> couldn't run Self on their own machines tried to make their own versions
> from scratch.
> In the late 1990s the first attempt at a Linux port happened and Sun
> allowed the Mac port to be released. This shifted interest from Self
> clones to Self ports.
> Note that the current VM implementation in C++ is just one option. Klein
> was a Self in Self alternative and it would not be hard to patch the
> Squeak Smalltalk VM to host Self, for example.
> -- Jecel

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