<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, Jecel. Indeed, yes.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- David</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 15, 2016, at 2:29 PM, 'Jecel Assumpcao Jr.' <a href="mailto:jecel@merlintec.com" class="">jecel@merlintec.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative;" class=""><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;" class=""><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=""><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class="">Bystroushaak,<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">just a little historical context:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">in the early years most people who wanted to play with Self did not have<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">access to a Sun workstation and so were limited to reading papers about<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">it. I was lucky that my local university let me use their machines.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">One result was that the papers gave people ideas for their own<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">languages, of which I think only Io (via NewtonScript) and Javascript<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">had any impact.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">The second thing that happened was that Sun decided to kill all non Java<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">languages, including Self and Tcl. This coincided with lots of<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">additional information about Self 4 and its graphical user interface<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">being released through ECOOP95 talks and workshops. So some people who<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">couldn't run Self on their own machines tried to make their own versions<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">from scratch.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">In the late 1990s the first attempt at a Linux port happened and Sun<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">allowed the Mac port to be released. This shifted interest from Self<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">clones to Self ports.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Note that the current VM implementation in C++ is just one option. Klein<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">was a Self in Self alternative and it would not be hard to patch the<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Squeak Smalltalk VM to host Self, for example.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">-- Jecel<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></p></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;" class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>