[self-interest] another list migration?

Russell Allen mail at russell-allen.com
Sun Oct 27 06:48:55 UTC 2019

Sharing infrastructure with Squeak sounds sensible to me too.

How is Squeak set up? Does it use a commercial email service or a cloud Linux vm?

Also is Pharo doing its own thing with its mailing list or is it on the same system?


Sent from my phone

> On 26 Oct 2019, at 4:52 am, 'Jecel Assumpcao Jr.' jecel at merlintec.com [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Russell,
> > Hi JecelYou are right. Our time on Yahoo is clearly limited and
> > we should move somewhere now before we are booted off.
> I felt really bad about spamming everyone the last time and wouldn't
> like to do it again. On the other hand, now we have your web site for
> the language (which was also missing in action back in 1997) so posting
> a link to the new list there should do the trick if needed.
> > We need to keep an archive of the messages from this period.
> > This is very important! Ideally I?d like to merge them with your
> > old archive and put them in a single searchable place
> That would be ideal. I got the original messages as a single .mbox file
> and then ran some scripts on that to generate the files I linked to.
> When I started the Egroups list there was a promise that we would be
> able to upload old archived messages to it but I think it involved
> getting help from the site's administrators and it never happened.
> > .I think Yahoo is deleting our archive on December 14.
> I am not sure if that is the case or if they will just be deleting
> photos, uploaded files and things like that on that date. But as I said,
> it is only a matter of time before they decide to delete the emails as
> well.
> > Do you know how to download a copy or do we need to spider it?
> There are several options. I have heard that there is a tool within
> Yahoo itself to do that, and I will check that out. There are fancy
> Python scripts to download everything (photos, files, subscriber list,
> etc).
> > We also need to work out where to go.
> > I?m happy myself to move to a new mailing list but I understand
> > that is pretty old school for open source projects now.
> This is an old school project ;-)
> > I?d def vote against using facebook or similar where we are tied in.
> I am not on Facebook, so have very limited access to stuff there.
> > I was given a link to https://groups.io which looks a potential home
> > but I haven?t investigated in full.
> This was created by the same guy who did Egroups, so we would be going
> full circle. They have some free features and also paid versions. Until
> March of this year you could create a free group and migrate everything
> off an old Yahoo group automatically. After that date this functionality
> is limited to those paying $110 per year.
> It still is possible to create a new groups.io group and manually move
> stuff there.
> > In the past I have run my own mail server, but Gmail?s spam filters
> > etc make that a no-go nowadays.
> Me too. Even the commercial service I am currently using (Locaweb) is
> not without its problems.
> In another email, Tobias Pape wrote:
> > Maybe we can ask the squeak community? They (that is,
> > mostly I) run their own mailing list infra:
> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/
> I would be happy with this option.
> -- Jecel
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