<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Sharing infrastructure with Squeak sounds sensible to me too.<div><br></div><div>How is Squeak set up? Does it use a commercial email service or a cloud Linux vm?</div><div><br></div><div>Also is Pharo doing its own thing with its mailing list or is it on the same system?<div><br></div><div>Russell</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my phone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 26 Oct 2019, at 4:52 am, 'Jecel Assumpcao Jr.' jecel@merlintec.com [self-interest] <self-interest@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>Russell,<br>
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> Hi JecelYou are right. Our time on Yahoo is clearly limited and<br>
> we should move somewhere now before we are booted off.<br>
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I felt really bad about spamming everyone the last time and wouldn't<br>
like to do it again. On the other hand, now we have your web site for<br>
the language (which was also missing in action back in 1997) so posting<br>
a link to the new list there should do the trick if needed.<br>
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> We need to keep an archive of the messages from this period.<br>
> This is very important! Ideally I?d like to merge them with your<br>
> old archive and put them in a single searchable place<br>
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That would be ideal. I got the original messages as a single .mbox file<br>
and then ran some scripts on that to generate the files I linked to.<br>
When I started the Egroups list there was a promise that we would be<br>
able to upload old archived messages to it but I think it involved<br>
getting help from the site's administrators and it never happened.<br>
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> .I think Yahoo is deleting our archive on December 14.<br>
<br>
I am not sure if that is the case or if they will just be deleting<br>
photos, uploaded files and things like that on that date. But as I said,<br>
it is only a matter of time before they decide to delete the emails as<br>
well.<br>
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> Do you know how to download a copy or do we need to spider it?<br>
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There are several options. I have heard that there is a tool within<br>
Yahoo itself to do that, and I will check that out. There are fancy<br>
Python scripts to download everything (photos, files, subscriber list,<br>
etc).<br>
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> We also need to work out where to go.<br>
> I?m happy myself to move to a new mailing list but I understand<br>
> that is pretty old school for open source projects now.<br>
<br>
This is an old school project ;-)<br>
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> I?d def vote against using facebook or similar where we are tied in.<br>
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I am not on Facebook, so have very limited access to stuff there.<br>
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> I was given a link to https://groups.io which looks a potential home<br>
> but I haven?t investigated in full.<br>
<br>
This was created by the same guy who did Egroups, so we would be going<br>
full circle. They have some free features and also paid versions. Until<br>
March of this year you could create a free group and migrate everything<br>
off an old Yahoo group automatically. After that date this functionality<br>
is limited to those paying $110 per year.<br>
<br>
It still is possible to create a new groups.io group and manually move<br>
stuff there.<br>
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> In the past I have run my own mail server, but Gmail?s spam filters<br>
> etc make that a no-go nowadays.<br>
<br>
Me too. Even the commercial service I am currently using (Locaweb) is<br>
not without its problems.<br>
<br>
In another email, Tobias Pape wrote:<br>
> Maybe we can ask the squeak community? They (that is,<br>
> mostly I) run their own mailing list infra:<br>
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/<br>
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I would be happy with this option.<br>
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-- Jecel<br>
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