[self-interest] messing with the interface.

Noah Evans noah.evans at gmail.com
Thu Jun 24 21:38:14 UTC 2010


Cool thanks for your feedback. I'm back reading Donald Norman and ruminating
over what to do next. I'll send more pics when I have progress to report.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com>wrote:

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> Hey Noah, good to see you're interested!
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> The NeXT-ish grey box look for Self is a little bit on the archaic side :)
> so facelifts are a definite Good Thing(TM).
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> I did something similar a couple of years back for myself, and for what
> it's worth my conclusions on issues worth working on were:
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> - outliners especially should look very concrete and real. The current
> outliners aren't bad, but could be better. I think the UI1 outliners were
> actually better, fwiw.  A nice OS X like dropshadow might help here.
>
> - there should be more affordances (ie visual indicators of functionality).
> Biggest problem with Self in this department is the pervasive use of popup
> menus. Maybe a greater use of drag and drop? Popup menus are also a problem
> if we want Self to appear on tablets in the future.
>
> - the interface should be clean and non-distracting. At the moment we end
> up with millions of little windows.  There's already a buried option for
> folding parents into the main outliner - it doesn't work very well but the
> approach makes sense for me. If parents are shared parts of the object, we
> should be able to see them when we look at the object. This would let us
> grab a string and see all of its slots, including shared ones.
>
> - it should be aesthetically pleasing. Maybe a templating system?
>
> In answer to your other question, I don't know but the outliner code
> certainly isn't as clean as it could be.  There is inheritance though - the
> slots in pink are 'inherited' (ie copied down) from morphs higher in the
> hierarchy.
>
> Cheers, Russell
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> On 21/06/2010, at 7:32 AM, Noah Evans wrote:
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> I've been messing with the interface a bit. Any advice/things people want?
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> Noah
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