From David Ungar

[Harald Gliebe]

FYI  (the second part :-) , sorry for the delay)
btw, Gordon Cichon also told me, that he can no longer send any mails to
self-interest.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ungar" <David.Ungar at sun.com>
To: "Harald Gliebe" <harald at gliebe.de>; <self-interest at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <gordon at cichon.de>; <david.ungar at sun.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Ann:] Self4Linux-0.2.0 alpha available


Guys, this sounds like a great accomplishment!!!

Congratulations and thanks!

- David

BTW--I cannot send mail to the self-interest group, and I am pretty
frustrated
with yahoo's web site so feel free to forward this mail to the group.
Not only does yahoo want to collect personal info on me before they
will let me send
a message, but their stuff just doesn't seem to work for me, even
when I answer their questions.
(This is just my personal opinion, of course.)

Here is the latest message I have tried (unsuccessfully, so far) to send
out:
(feel free to relay this one, too.)

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:08:33 -0800
To: self-interest at yahoogroups.com
From: David Ungar <David.Ungar at Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: [self-interest] Buying self box...Sparc or Mac?
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Victor,

I use both Suns and Macs. I have a brand-new 667Mhz Powerbook.
The experience is definitely better on a Sun--very snappy on a 400Mhz
machine.
(Remember, the optimizing compiler is only on SPARC.)
But I find it usable on the Mac...more like the early days of Self.
And my Mac is very useful for all sorts of things.
My bottom line: if you want a machine just for Self and you will be doing a
LOT
of Selfing you could consider the Sun. Otherwise I would recommend the Mac.

Hope this helps.

The latest version of Self may not have gotten out on the Web.
If you do get a Mac, or if others need this, please bug me a bit so I will
bug
the folks here at Sun to get this out to you.

(I use a version that runs natively under OS X. It uses either
MacToolbox or X graphics for the display.)

- Dave



At 2:08 AM +0000 12/20/01, victor_yurkovsky wrote:
>I am finally breaking down and will get a self machine.  Is the mac
>version tolerable or should I just go the sun way?
>Can I use gnu tools to compile self sources or will I need to shell
>out big bucks to Sun for a developer kit?  (I am a bit peeved that
>they are selling memory for 10 times street price...)
>
>Any input welcome.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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     David Ungar
     Sun Microsystems Laboratories
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