--- In self-interest@yahoogroups.com, <harald@g...> wrote:

Paul,

I'm afraid the cygwin version of Self is currently broken - probably because of some changes in memory allocation within cygwin.dll (cygwin 1.3.19 is the last version I'v used successfully). Unfortunatly I'm not able to spend more time on this problem at the moment.

To try out Self you could try to go back 1.3.19 (I'm not sure if you can still find it). Alternatively, to try the more stable Linux version without installing Linux, is to use Knoppix, a bootable CD image with a fully configured Linux-System: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Regards,

Harald

Hello

When I found out that Self can now run on cygwin platform, I have decided to try out. (the linux engine on Mandrake 9.1 linux distribution runs fine on my machine). So I have downloaded the latest version of cygwin (1.3.22), and it was not working. (I got a lot of messages like VM error signal 11... etc.)

So reading properly messages in this archive, (I subscribed just now) I discovered that the problem is with version of cygwin lib. So I need the older version of cygwin (1.3.19, as Harald said).

But where to get this version of cygwin? It is problem because cygwin has its own install program which (I suppose after some experiments done) do not support installing of older versions. Also, in ftp archives one can not find the complete older version.

Good news are that there is a simple way to change existing installation of new cygwin (1.3.22) to the older (1.3.19), and it really works and Self is running!

I have discovered this way only a few hours ago, so maybe some problems may exist here; just try out....

The cookbook:

1) suppose you have installed current cygwin to f:\cygwin 2) look to http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html to find some mirror of ftp with the cygwin distribution. I have used ftp://ftp.fit.vutbr.cz/pub/systems/cygwin/ address (in Czech Republic), you probably will choose another. 3) go to the release/cygwin directory, where you can find some files like cygwin-1.3.19-1.tar.bz2 (and other versions). Get this file! 4) Extract files contaned in this archive. You get usr/ directory with some files and subdirs. 5) Look into extracted usr\bin directory. There are 17 files for version 1.3.19 of cygwin, including cygwin1.dll 6) Backup newer files in your f:\cygwin\bin, and replace them by older version files. 7) start cygwin and try $cygcheck -s |less . Somewhere in the text you can read "Cygwin DLL info: DLL version 1.3.19 ....". That's exactly what we wanted. 8) start out XFree and run Self: startx cd self ./Self -c -s Empty.snap 9) Enjoy!

You can replace files in f:\cygwin\bin with the backed up files of new version of cygwin when necessary to get your cygwin system back to its initial state. All this hacking is not very clear to cygwin system, but it works and I did not encountered any problems. The discussion forum at cygwin.com maybe contains relevant information, but it seems to me that they are hard to find.

Let me know, if this cookbook helped!

Regards,

Jan Bryscejn