I'm not sure what to tell you about the .xcodeproj file. I don't know much about Mac OS "bundles." On my machine (a Powerbook running Mac OS 10.4.7), when I download the Klein distribution from the website and double-click it to unzip it, I can find the klein_C_code.xcodeproj file and it shows up correctly (as a single bundle, not a directory).
Alex suggested that the problem might have something to do with different versions of Xcode. We've been using Xcode 2.3. I don't know whether that's likely to make a difference or not.
Is your Macintosh PowerPC-based or Intel-based? I'd be happy to send you my kleinDebugServer executable, but I've only got a PowerPC version.
In any case, though, you shouldn't need the debug server just to browse through the sources. At what point during the file-in process do you run into errors? (What does the console output look like?) The postFileIn for the vmKits module tries to run Klein's automated test suite (which requires the debug server to be working), but by the time you get to that point, all the Klein source code has been filed in. Assuming you've gotten to that point, you should be able to browse through the sources (maybe after closing the existing Self world and opening a new one) with no trouble.
Adam
On 9/29/06, Jecel Assumpcao Jr jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
This is a bit off topic, but yesterday I was trying to install Klein 0.1 into a Self 4.3 image on a Mac running MacOS X 10.4 but was unable to follow this simple instruction:
- Use Apple's XCode to open up the klein_C_code.xcodeproj file in the
klein_C_code/xcode/klein_C_code directory.
One problem is that I have a directory with that name, not a file. Given the "bundles" stuff in MacOS X (where a directory can mascarade as a file some of the time) I figured that this might be normal, but trying to open this from Xcode 2.0 has no effect at all. Inside the directory I see three files: project.pbxproj, ungar.mode1 and ungar.pbxuser
Clicking on the first or the third opens up Xcode but with no project open. And trying to open these files from Xcode also has no effect. By that I mean everything is exactly as before and there are no error messages at all.
Since when loading Klein into Self it runs a lot of stuff and then crashes due to the missing debugServer I didn't get very far. I am not actually planning to run Klein but just to browse through the sources (which I could do in any text editor loading the .self files directly, but outliners are soooooooo much prettier!).
-- Jecel
Adam Spitz wrote:
I'm not sure what to tell you about the .xcodeproj file. I don't know much about Mac OS "bundles." On my machine (a Powerbook running Mac OS 10.4.7), when I download the Klein distribution from the website and double-click it to unzip it, I can find the klein_C_code.xcodeproj file and it shows up correctly (as a single bundle, not a directory).
That is what I expected. Perhaps it is a matter of changing some setting in the uncompression tool? The Mac (a G5 iMac) is at home so I will have to look into this later.
Alex suggested that the problem might have something to do with different versions of Xcode. We've been using Xcode 2.3. I don't know whether that's likely to make a difference or not.
I thought you guys might have been using Xcode 3.0 already - I doubt there would be any real difference between 2.0 and 2.3. My problem was very likely to have been in the uncompression stage.
Is your Macintosh PowerPC-based or Intel-based? I'd be happy to send you my kleinDebugServer executable, but I've only got a PowerPC version.
Thanks! Though as you mentioned below, I probably don't actually need it. But it might be nice to have in case I do want to run stuff in the future, so first I will try to fix that bundle/folder thing. If that doesn't work then it would be great to get the pre-compiled debug server for the PowerPC.
In any case, though, you shouldn't need the debug server just to browse through the sources. At what point during the file-in process do you run into errors? (What does the console output look like?)
I got dumped into the VM# prompt and didn't try restarting the scheduler (and then the desktop) to see what would happen. I'll have to run it again to see what the errors were.
The postFileIn for the vmKits module tries to run Klein's automated test suite (which requires the debug server to be working), but by the time you get to that point, all the Klein source code has been filed in. Assuming you've gotten to that point, you should be able to browse through the sources (maybe after closing the existing Self world and opening a new one) with no trouble.
It looked like all the files had been read in and there were lots and lots of tests sending their output to the console, each one related to a PowerPC instruction (I think - it has been a looong time since I looked at that processor's instruction set). I will try "prompt start" and "desktop go" (just looked these up ;-) if I get another crash.
One thing I am interested in is comparing Klein with the sources for Exupery, which is a bytecode-to-x86 compiler written in Squeak Smalltalk. The goals are rather different (the focus for Exupery is good code generation at the cost of compilation speed) so I want to see what effect, if any, that had on the program structure.
-- Jecel
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