Russell Allen wrote:

As far as I know there are only two guis in 4.4 - iu1 and ui2 (which is morphic). Neither is particularily 3D though 'ui1' has a nice boxy look.

I do remember some mention of experimental code besides ui1 and ui2, but couldn't find it again in a quick search. Certainly it wouldn't be something that would be included in an "official" release at any point in the past. I did find an email from me asking about it in 1996, but there was no reply:

http://www.merlintec.com/old-self-interest/msg00858.html

Ah, I see that a little earlier I had found that out by looking at benchmarks listed in papers about Self:

http://www.merlintec.com/old-self-interest/msg00895.html

We probably should make ui1 an optional install for the core clean.snap for 4.5 to reduce confusion.

That would be great. If I remember correctly, ui1 wasn't available at all when Self 4.0 came out. Many of its interesting features was included in ui2, but enough were not that it is nice to be able to play with the old code as well.

On 13/11/2010, at 10:28 AM, Jan-Paul Bultmann wrote: Hey, I see the traces of some sort of 3d Gui, but I can't find any information about it. Could you give me some vague overview^^?

I'll mention some related project:

Nick Drew created a very interesting 3D program visualization environment for Self, which he announced here:

http://www.merlintec.com/old-self-interest/msg00630.html

Unfortunately, the pages mentioned there vanished long ago and can't even be found in archive.org. They included many neat pictures and some movies.

I had the intention of creating a 3D GUI for Self and implemented a quick prototype (first in GW Basic, then in ARM assembly language):

http://www.merlintec.com/lsi/gui.html

The idea was to build it in an alternative to OpenGL style systems called "adaptive rendering" because it was similar in some ways to the adaptive compilation in the Self VM:

http://www.merlintec.com/lsi/gmodel.html

-- Jecel