Thanks,

Is the preprint available? The paper is behind the ACM paywall. :(

Stephen

[Would you believe I just renewed my ACM membership. I thought I could skip DL for a year, I have heaps of papers I need to read. ] On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 20:03, David Ungar ungar@me.com [self-interest] < self-interest@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Korz is a new, symmetric multidimensional paradigm--there's a paper on it in Onward! 2014--that I'm very interested in these days. (My answer was tongue-in-cheek--sorry if I wasn't clear about that.) Bayesian was intended to mean using probabilities instead of 0-or-1.

The problem with using anything in Self to do this--although that's all we have--is that Self lacks native support for multidimensional, non-Aristotelian conceptual frameworks. So, if you want that, I guess you need to find an idiom.

Example, a small int is an integer, it is also (disjunction or conjunction?) a set of powers-of-two (so is sorta a collection), and is also performant. There are three dimensions with a sorta in one.

• David

On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle spdegabrielle@gmail.com [self-interest] self-interest@yahoogroups.com wrote:

What is 'Bayesian Korz' ? Would it allow you to have an object in both Platform and 'graphical interface'?

Kind Regards,

Stephen On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 08:05, David Ungar ungar@me.com [self-interest] < self-interest@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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You need Bayesian Korz, or a simulation of it. No one-dimensional, Aristotelian framework will be great. :)

• David (from iPad, typos likely)

On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Russell Allen mail@russell-allen.com [self-interest] self-interest@yahoogroups.com wrote:

The current organisation of objects in 'globals' into categories bears all the hallmarks of organic growth, and I've found it a bit hard to work out where things are. (There is also scope for cleanups of some of the more unused objects but we'll look at that later)

I've added a branch to the GitHub sources 'reorg' and have built a trial snapshot with an attempt at something more 'discoverable'.

I'd love feedback; either build the version in the reorg branch or download a prebuilt snapshot at:

http://files.selflanguage.org/temp/reorg.snap

The story about the top level is basically:

applications - anything outside the main Self release, eg webservers etc core - core language objects such as numbers, collections, booleans etc graphical interface - code for morphic, ui1 etc platform - objects to interface with the underlying platform (eg OS X etc) system - objects relating to the Self system, such as the system logger, the transporter, reflection facilities etc

Any suggestions?

Cheers, Russell

That one, but not the best one. Here is the Onward paper:

On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, 'Paul Chapman' paul@igblan.free-online.co.uk [self-interest] self-interest@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Stephen,

I think this is it.

http://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~servetto/Fool2014/FundationForObjectAspectAn...

Cheers, Paul

My pleasure. I hope you enjoy it. I am really excited about the possibilities it opens up.

On Feb 2, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Stephen De Gabrielle spdegabrielle@gmail.com [self-interest] self-interest@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Thank you!

On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 23:55, David Ungar ungar@me.com mailto:ungar@me.com [self-interest] <self-interest@yahoogroups.com mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com> wrote: That one, but not the best one. Here is the Onward paper:

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On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, 'Paul Chapman' paul@igblan.free-online.co.uk mailto:paul@igblan.free-online.co.uk [self-interest] <self-interest@yahoogroups.com mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Stephen,

I think this is it.

http://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~servetto/Fool2014/FundationForObjectAspectAn... http://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~servetto/Fool2014/FundationForObjectAspectAndContextOrientedProgramming

Cheers, Paul

<onwd1424-ungarC as final pdf.pdf>