Hello, I am trying to do a considerable amount to development work in the self environment, using the Self 4.0 release.

But with more than 2-3 large outliners open the interactive performance is bothersome. (I admit my patience is lacking somewhat also)

I am using a 143Mhz UltraSparc with 64M ram, although my X server is running on a Win95 system via 10Mbps Ethernet. (Its not the best, but I don't think it's the slowdown here) (Actually, today I just upgraded to 128M ram, so that may help)

I have done a small amount of system monitoring via 'top', and the problem doesn't seem to be excessive paging.

I suspect that the morphic system combined with Kansas is not as fast as I would really like it to be. If I drag a closed outliner around over an empty portion of the world, I am quite pleased with the redraw speed. But when I start dragging open outliners around over other open outliners, things really slow down.

I'm pretty jazzed by the outliner development environment, and don't want to lose that, but I was wondering if any the Self team members had other environments that they used for long periods of programming. (Say maybe minus some of the Kansas functionality)

I also tried to bring up the ui1 Snapshot, ie: $ ./Snapshot.ui1 Welcome to the Self... "Self 2"

But I wasn't quite sure what method to invoke to bring up an X window. (As you can see, I get the VM prompt, "Self 2", but I don't get an X window as I do with the 4.0 release Snapshot)

Anyway, Thanks for your help, Cameron