Yeah, thank you Russell - the site's very nice.

Russell, thanks for doing all of this stuff! It's about time we had our own domain name. :)

I've set up the old website (self.sourceforge.net) to redirect to the new one.

Does anybody in the community have strong feelings about CVS versus Git, or SourceForge versus GitHub? Would GitHub be a better place to host the "official" Self source-code repository?

Adam

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Dear all,

As part of an effort to get Self moving again and as a precursor to a new release, we now have a new official Self website at:

http://selflanguage.org

This site will hopefully be the focal point of Self related information. I will be changing the links to self.sourceforge.net where I am able (ie in Wikipedia etc).

I would be greatful if you could all:

• link to this site when talking about Self on blogs etc. Self

does not have the most 'google-able' name so this would help people find Self and Self related materials.

• send me any relevant links or information to add to the site.

A technical note: selflanguage.org is built from the Git repository at http://github.com/russellallen/self/tree/website using the Sphinx documentation system recently developed to handle the documentation needs of Python. If you have suggested changes, please either email them to me or alternatively fork a copy of the repository on GitHub, make your changes and I can then pull them into the main repo.

Best,

Russell

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Hi,

good job! There are several Solaris/SPARC machines at my uni. Maybe I'll able to manage dedicated Solaris zone (kind of virtual machine) for you on one of that machines. I'll ask our admins next week.

Regards, Jan

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 15:02 +1100, Russell Allen wrote:

Hi guys,

I haven't been able to find the time to put together a fully functional release, but I have noticed that there have been a large number of hits to the new website (55,047 pages since launch), so I've put together an initial alpha to get things moving.

Download it from selflanguage.org

What we have is:

• Working MacOS X VM with installer
• Working Linux x86 VM
• Freshly built Clean.snap

Currently missing is:

• an updated Demo.snap
• Sparc and Intel Solaris VMs. I don't have easy access to a Sparc

machine and would greatly appreciate it if someone who does could help out. It would be a great pity to have to abandon Self's first platform!

• release documentation, notes etc.

Please read the short ReadMe file!

Unfortunately the Snapshot and MacOS X VM form a pair; you can't open Clean.snap in a 4.3 VM so be wary if you already have a 4.3 VM on your system that your Mac doesn't try to use it instead of the new one. How to handle VM versioning is a subject I'd like to discuss with anyone with experience in it.

This is an initial alpha and hasn't been tested. Everything is up for change including distribution methods, packaging etc. Please comment and try out; in particular please sing out if the Linux VM doesn't work on your distro.

Best,

Russell

so I've put together an initial alpha to get things moving.

Is there a source tarball for this alpha release?

John

Download it from selflanguage.org

What we have is:

• Working MacOS X VM with installer
• Working Linux x86 VM
• Freshly built Clean.snap

Currently missing is:

• an updated Demo.snap
• Sparc and Intel Solaris VMs. I don't have easy access to a Sparc

machine and would greatly appreciate it if someone who does could help out. It would be a great pity to have to abandon Self's first platform!

• release documentation, notes etc.

Please read the short ReadMe file!

Unfortunately the Snapshot and MacOS X VM form a pair; you can't open Clean.snap in a 4.3 VM so be wary if you already have a 4.3 VM on your system that your Mac doesn't try to use it instead of the new one. How to handle VM versioning is a subject I'd like to discuss with anyone with experience in it.

This is an initial alpha and hasn't been tested. Everything is up for change including distribution methods, packaging etc. Please comment and try out; in particular please sing out if the Linux VM doesn't work on your distro.

Best,

Russell

Hi all,

To keep things ticking over, I've released a new alpha of 4.4.

The difference from the first alpha are:

- When you double-click snapshots on MacOS X they will open without the Terminal.app. This allows Self snapshots to behave as though they were 'normal' MacOS applications (or executable jar files in Java). You can of course run Snapshots from the terminal if you wish, either by making them executable and running them or by 'Self -s Clean.snap'

- The Demo.snap is back!

- The VM version number has been incremented so that previous 4.3 snapshots (and, unfortunately, 4.4 alpha 1 snapshots) will not run. This is necessary because the vm was previously attempting to run old snapshots, but failing in random ways (mostly connected with changes in the MacOS X primitives)

When I get a 4.4 VM built on Sparc Solaris, I will release a beta.

Until then, I am very interested in any feedback that you can give me.

There are known issues with keyboard behaviour; these haven't been fixed yet.

Download 4.4 Alpha 2 from selflanguage.org

Cheers,

Russell

Hi Baltasar,

I'm planning to get an alpha release of Self for Linux x86 out in a few days.

Best,

Russell

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On 26/01/2009, at 7:22 PM, "J. Baltasar" García Perez-Schofield <jbgarcia@uvigo.e s> wrote:

Hi !

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Thanks Russell for this nice website.

The new site is awesome. Will it be a version of Self for Linux x86?

Salud !

Baltasar

-- PBC -- J. Baltasar García Perez-Schofield jbgarcia en uvigo de es http://webs.uvigo.es/jbgarcia/ Dep. Informática, Universidad de Vigo, España (Spain)