Is the preprint available? The paper is behind the ACM paywall. :(


[Would you believe I just renewed my ACM membership. I thought I could skip DL for a year, I have heaps of papers I need to read. ]
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 20:03, David Ungar [self-interest] <> wrote:

Korz is a new, symmetric multidimensional paradigm--there's a paper on it in Onward! 2014--that I'm very interested in these days. (My answer was tongue-in-cheek--sorry if I wasn't clear about that.) Bayesian was intended to mean using probabilities instead of 0-or-1.

The problem with using anything in Self to do this--although that's all we have--is that Self lacks native support for multidimensional, non-Aristotelian conceptual frameworks. So, if you want that, I guess you need to find an idiom.

Example, a small int is an integer, it is also (disjunction or conjunction?) a set of powers-of-two (so is sorta a collection), and is also performant. There are three dimensions with a sorta in one.

- David

On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle [self-interest] <> wrote:


What is 'Bayesian Korz' ?
Would it allow you to have an object in both Platform and 'graphical interface'?

Kind Regards,


On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 08:05, David Ungar [self-interest] <> wrote:

You need Bayesian Korz, or a simulation of it. No one-dimensional, Aristotelian framework will be great. :)

- David (from iPad, typos likely)

On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Russell Allen [self-interest] <> wrote:


The current organisation of objects in 'globals' into categories bears all the hallmarks of organic growth, and I've found it a bit hard to work out where things are. (There is also scope for cleanups of some of the more unused objects but we'll look at that later)

I've added a branch to the GitHub sources 'reorg' and have built a trial snapshot with an attempt at something more 'discoverable'.

I'd love feedback; either build the version in the reorg branch or download a prebuilt snapshot at:

The story about the top level is basically:

applications - anything outside the main Self release, eg webservers etc
core - core language objects such as numbers, collections, booleans etc
graphical interface - code for morphic, ui1 etc
platform - objects to interface with the underlying platform (eg OS X etc)
system - objects relating to the Self system, such as the system logger, the transporter, reflection facilities etc

Any suggestions?

Cheers, Russell