Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: Hi Jecel!
On Monday 15 March 2004 19:32, Albertina Lourenci wrote:
Well, in this case we have no graphical wall!
It is an example of a textual notation, not a graphical one.
Of course for graphical designers this makes no sense!
My point exactly.
What I understand by graphical syntax is something like the GUI, the outliner and so on! In this case you also have true graphical objects.
I am typing this in an application running in a GUI, yet can't use it to send you an example of a graphical notation. The outliner only allows you to type text in it to define a method, even though it is a very nice graphical notation of an object.
Hence the difference is not it is only interactive. Indeed it has different functionality from the literal syntax. It is something like three dimensional collaborative architecture and bidimensional collaborative architecture.
And this confirms my viewpoints there is no one-to-one mapping. Different functionalities are involved.
Even though the three versions of the wall object are equivalent in theory, in practice it is more fun to deal with the graphical version.
I see no equivalence! Only if you make a reductionist effort or a rough mapping from one to the other. For a designer this makes no sense!
It is not a rough mapping - it is an exact mapping which an automatic tool can use to translate from one notation to the other.
I see! It is like free-hand sketch and then technical drawing!
But you are the one who said:
# I miss the point here. Semiotically speaking there may be different # forms for the same content. What's the problem with this? For me the # problem is when there is no correspondence between the two different # forms. This is exactly what happens when one tries to map domain model # and architecture into programming languages.
Sure! I believe the conundrum might be solved if one builds programming languages inspired by what happens in domain model and architectures. And yet the programming language has its own development!
I showed you three different forms for the same content, and hope you now see the problem with this. In practice, some forms are more convenient than others.
I see. Thank you for the detailed explanation. Best wishes Albertina
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