<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I understand. Whatever works best for you, of course.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 10, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <a href="mailto:mayuresh@kathe.in" class="">mayuresh@kathe.in</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; position: relative;" class=""><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;" class=""><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=""><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class="">That would be great too, but I am looking more from the point of someone<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">actually implementing the UI changes I'll be doing via my work on the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">graphics side of it.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Simply put, at the moment, I am (re)learning Smalltalk and working in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">the Self environment, so the spare time that I have could be put to good<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">use by working on developing the graphical elements using a graphical<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">editor, which in my case would be an icon editor.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">I think it's been close to 11 years that I haven't worked with Self,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">have forgotten most of the techniques and the approach to writing code.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">C derived languages are really different in their style and approach to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">writing code as opposed to Smalltalk and hence Self.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">~Mayuresh<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">On 2018-12-11 12:36 AM, David Ungar<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ungar@mac.com" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class="">ungar@mac.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[self-interest] wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> I’ll be happy to give you look-and-feel feedback, if that’s what<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> you want.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> - David<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Mayuresh Kathe<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mayuresh@kathe.in" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class="">mayuresh@kathe.in</a><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> I can start off with working on small incremental improvements to<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> the<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> look-and-feel of the user interface, but I have no expertise in<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> actually<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> writing or modifying existing code to make that happen.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> Anyone interested in collaborating with me on that front?<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> BTW, hope the rest of you too are in this for the long term!<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">>> ~Mayuresh<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> Links:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> ------<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">> [1]<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/self-interest/conversations/messages/3621;_ylc=X3oDMTJwdmkxZW9vBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzExMTQ4MzUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjc2NzE4BG1zZ0lkAzM2MjEEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxNTQ0NDY4ODIw?act=reply&messageNum=3621" style="line-height: 1.22em; 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