<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Thank you for answer and for that pointer. It’s a good one. Let us know if you do that mini-Self. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We did a toy implementation of Korz atop Self. I believe that Harold Ossher was looking at getting IBM to release it. Send me a message at <a href="mailto:ungar@mac.com" class="">ungar@mac.com</a> if you want his email address.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle <a href="mailto:spdegabrielle@gmail.com" class="">spdegabrielle@gmail.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative;" class=""><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;" class=""><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Hi, <br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://steve-yegge.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/universal-design-pattern.html" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Universal Design Pattern</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>blog post[1] by Steve Yegge brought Self to my attention, though I was aware it from discussions of the Javascript object system.</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Morphic blew my mind but I sadly don't have time to spend on it. </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">I'm currently learning Swift, but in my down-time I am fiddling with Protobj[2] and 'Purely-functional Object-Oriented System'[3] with a vague idea of doing a mini-self on top of the Racket Language[4] (that would run on windows - something you sadly can't do in Self 4.5 - and probably blocks a number of people who would otherwise try it)<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Is there a implementation of Korz available ?</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Kind Regards, </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Stephen</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">1. <a href="http://steve-yegge.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/universal-design-pattern.html" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://steve-yegge.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/universal-design-pattern.html</a><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/protobj/" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/protobj/</a></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">3.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/#pure-oo" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/#pure-oo</a> more detail <a href="http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/oop-in-fp.txt" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/oop-in-fp.txt</a> </div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">4. <a href="https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/languages.html" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/languages.html</a> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="line-height: 1.22em;">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:32 PM, David Ungar<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ungar@mac.com" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">ungar@mac.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[self-interest]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid;"><u style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></u><div style="line-height: 1.22em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""> </span><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class="">I am pleased and amazed at the attention you all lavish on Self. The recent activity has moved me to wonder:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">What is it about Self that appeals? What is it that you don’t like?<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">I mean to ask about the language, environment, and implementation, not about the mailing list, web site, or even documentation.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">One reason this topic interests me is that I am watching the immense popularity of Swift, a somewhat different style of PL, and I am even enjoying Swift myself.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Thanks in advance,<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">- David</p></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 0px;" class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;" class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>