<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Otto,<div class="">Are you on Linux or OS X? Which version?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The VM version you have is fine. 4.5 is the version of the Self sources.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How are you running it? On the command line or through the Self Control gui?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Btw, the forum is just an archive for this mailing list. I’ll fix the link - there is also an archive at:</div><div class=""><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/self-interest/info" class="">https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/self-interest/info</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, Russell</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Oct 2015, at 9:28 pm, Otto Behrens <a href="mailto:otto@finworks.biz" class="">otto@finworks.biz</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" class="">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: relative;" class=""><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;" class=""><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Hi,<div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">I'm a complete newbie, so please excuse. I have been Smalltalking for a long time and would like to learn self. I downloaded the vm and Clean.snap (on linux). I cloned<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://github.com/russellallen/self" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://github.com/russellallen/self</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and tried to run the worldBuilder.self in the cloned tree. (VM# 'self/objects/worldBuilder.self' _RunScript). It's a bit hard for me to read the stack that the VM spews out, but it appears as if my setup is not correct. If you think it's useful, I'll send it.</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">What should I be reading first to get going? Should I read more in the handbook first? Should I be put the files in a specific directory structure? How do you recommend I get into self? </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><a href="http://forum.selflanguage.org/" style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">http://forum.selflanguage.org/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>does not seem to be up - browser can't connect.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">When I run the VM, the version it prints is "Self Virtual Machine Version 4.1.13". The handbook says 4.5 is the most recent version. Should I build the VM?</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""><br style="line-height: 1.22em;" class=""></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Thanks</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;" class="">Otto</div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;" class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>