Thanks, <br><br>Is the preprint available? The paper is behind the ACM paywall. :(<br><br>Stephen <br><br>[Would you believe I just renewed my ACM membership. I thought I could skip DL for a year, I have heaps of papers I need to read. ]<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 20:03, David Ungar <a href="mailto:ungar@me.com">ungar@me.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><div>Korz is a new, symmetric multidimensional paradigm--there's a paper on it in Onward! 2014--that I'm very interested in these days. (My answer was tongue-in-cheek--sorry if I wasn't clear about that.) Bayesian was intended to mean using probabilities instead of 0-or-1.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem with using anything in Self to do this--although that's all we have--is that Self lacks native support for multidimensional, non-Aristotelian conceptual frameworks. So, if you want that, I guess you need to find an idiom.</div><div><br></div><div>Example, a small int is an integer, it is also (disjunction or conjunction?) a set of powers-of-two (so is sorta a collection), and is also performant. There are three dimensions with a sorta in one.</div><div><br></div><div>- David</div></p></div></div></div></div><div style="background-color:#fff"><div><div><div><p><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle <a href="mailto:spdegabrielle@gmail.com" target="_blank">spdegabrielle@gmail.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
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<div><p>What is 'Bayesian Korz' ?<br> Would it allow you to have an object in both Platform and 'graphical interface'?<br><br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Stephen<br></p><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 08:05, David Ungar <a href="mailto:ungar@me.com" target="_blank">ungar@me.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a><u></u>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid">
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<div><div><br></div><div>You need Bayesian Korz, or a simulation of it. No one-dimensional, Aristotelian framework will be great. :)<br><br>- David (from iPad, typos likely)</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div style="background-color:#fff"><div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br>On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Russell Allen <a href="mailto:mail@russell-allen.com" target="_blank">mail@russell-allen.com</a> [self-interest] <<a href="mailto:self-interest@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">self-interest@yahoogroups.com</a><u></u><u></u>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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applications - anything outside the main Self release, eg webservers etc<br>
core - core language objects such as numbers, collections, booleans etc<br>
graphical interface - code for morphic, ui1 etc<br>
platform - objects to interface with the underlying platform (eg OS X etc)<br>
system - objects relating to the Self system, such as the system logger, the transporter, reflection facilities etc<br>
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