<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I think historically Self has been sociologically an academic/research community and not an open source community (of course Self is under an open source licence) That is, people have tended to do their own thing in private and write papers or give presentations every now and again to let people know what they're doing, rather than doing development in public. (eg more like Alan Kay's FONC than Pharo)</div><div><br></div><div>Timezones are definitely an issue for small communities spread out over the world. Email solves that better than IRC but of course like all media has its own effects on the message :)</div><div><br></div><div>I think it is probably a good time to start talking about how to best handle multiple repositories rather than putting everything in the main tree. Some stuff currently in the tree such as webservers and browsers should probably be split out. This would also force us to think more concretely about versioning.</div><div><br></div><div>The transporter is good for developing and managing libraries in the sense of components of a compiled product - the analogy is building a static unix binary. It's not so good at being a package manager like say yum or apt - it can only load, not unload for example.</div><div><br></div><div>Russell</div><br><div><div>On 4 Mar 2014, at 9:29 am, ardeujho <<a href="mailto:ardeujho@cd.pn">ardeujho@cd.pn</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: static; z-index: auto;"><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; position: relative;"><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;"><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><span style="line-height: 1.22em;">The Self community tends to quietness but it's pretty active. Communication is here mostly. There is an IRC channel. It's on '#self-lang' on Freenode. Numbers are low so feel free to join. I suspect time zones of people often don't match though.</span></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">Some form of central code repository for holding contributed modules would be an interesting idea. The Self repository itself could be used for this but I'm not sure how the main developers feel about it. It would mean more pull requests and I don't think they get processed often.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014, at 09:02 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:spdegabrielle@gmail.com" style="line-height: 1.22em;">spdegabrielle@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><span style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;"><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></p><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Hi, <br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Is there an active Self community? <br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><span class="colour" style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span class="font" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 16px;">How do you communicate? IRC or Shared Self workspaces/images? Twitter? FB? (The mailing list seems a little quiet)</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span class="font" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 16px;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Kind regards,<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; border-color: rgb(213, 209, 182); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Stephen<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></p></span></span></span></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;"></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>