<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>This one? <a href="http://www.infoq.com/presentations/oop-language-context">http://www.infoq.com/presentations/oop-language-context</a></div><div><br></div><div>That's awesome. I really like the transparent context viewer. </div><div><br></div><div>You are ending up with a language (system?) which looks like it would be difficult-to-impossible to properly program using just a text editor except for the simplest of programs.</div><div><br></div><div>Russell</div><br><div><div>On 7 Feb 2014, at 12:42 pm, David Ungar <<a href="mailto:ungar@me.com">ungar@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); position: static; z-index: auto;"><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; position: relative;"><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;"><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;"><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;">If you are interested, see the talk Harold Ossher and I gave at SPLASH this past fall.</p><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. <<a href="mailto:jecel@merlintec.com" style="line-height: 1.22em;">jecel@merlintec.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="line-height: 1.22em;"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </span><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;"><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;">Russell Allen wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">> Slots can be marked as public or private (or unmarked). This is purely<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">> documentational and not enforced at all, but slots marked public get<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">> bolded by outlines.<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">This is true in Self 4.x but wasn't the case in Self 1 and 2 where the<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">privacy declaration made a difference in slot lookup. A private slot<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">would be found be an implicit self send but not by a normal send. This<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">meant that "mumble" and "self mumble" might do different things (note<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">that they still might if 'mumble' is a temporary variable in the current<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">method, but that is a different issue).<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">Unfortunately this privacy stuff combined with parent priorities and the<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">tie breaker rule to make it really hard for programmers to guess what a<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">piece of code would do. So it was all ripped out in Self 3 until a<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">proper solution could be found but the privacy declarations remained as<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">a kind of comment to be ignored by the VM. The proper solution was Us<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">(do we have a link to the relevant papers for that on the site?).<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">-- Jecel<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;"></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>