<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Of course I will donate my time, but cannot spare too much. I have a great day job!<br><br>-- David (tapped out on my iPhone; blame it for any typoze;-)</div><div><br>On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Thorsten Dittmar <<a href="mailto:thormar@me.com">thormar@me.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>Thx David,</p><div><br></div><div>thats really good news.</div><div><br></div><div>just to make one point crystal clear: Self is unfortunately only a hobby for me, not a business. If I would like to spend an amount of money with 6 digits for a hobby, I would ask Dita von Teese to marry me. So this payment would be more like a compensation for expenses plus some pocket money, so no big business for the third group. anyhow, self is an obsession for most of us and to get payed for an obsession should reduce the compensation for personal suffering a little bit ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>best regards</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Thorsten Dittmar wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div id="ygrp-text"><p>Hello folks,</p><div><br></div><div>I had a short private discussion with Gordon about that topic. Specially about the topic if it makes sense to port self as it is to ARM or if it would be better to get Klein up and running. Of course, it would be funny to have self on a table or so, but from my point of view this would cause a lot of changes across the complete system and we would spend a lot of time with C++ code.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be willing to finance the Klein implementation… of course, it depends on the price and the quality. </div><div><br></div><div>Is guess we will need three kind of people </div><div><br></div><div>first group:</div><div>the folks with the money. I'm the first one. I would be happy if somebody else will join</div><div><br></div><div>second group: </div><div>the quality guards. I have an allergy against C++, so I can not really evaluate the code… ok ok, it is not really an allergy, I'm just to stupid to it</div><div>I would sleep much better, if some of the old hands would take over this part.</div><div><br></div><div>third group:</div><div>the code junkies</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So, I made the first step by entering the first group. Is somebody will to accede my or one of the other groups?</div><div><br></div><div>best regards</div><div><br></div><div>thorsten</div><div><br></div><div>(btw: I can pay in Euros or Dollars ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Gordon Cichon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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I'd be willing to do it. My name is Gordon, and I started the first
x86 port of the Self VM. (before that, Self was considered a
Sparc-only system). I've also hardware experience with ARM
architecture. For reference, please ask David Ungar.<br>
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Gordon<br>
<a href="http://www.self-support.com/">http://www.self-support.com/</a><br>
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On 12/06/2011 11:56 AM, C wrote:
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<div>A prerequisite to finding funding is finding someone
who is qualified and willing to work on the VM. If you
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On 06/12/2011, at 8:30 PM, Gordon Cichon <<a moz="true" href="mailto:selfinterest@lists.cichon.com">selfinterest@lists.cichon.com</a>>
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is there a possibility to obtain any funding for
this project? Maybe setting it up as a research
project?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Gordon<br>
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> has anyone successfully run Self
4.x on an ARM architecture?<br>
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There is no ARM compiler backend and
Self does not have an interpreter<br>
so it'd be a fair amount of effort to
get it working.<br>
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