<html><head><base href="x-msg://558/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I wasn't sure about the spacing either - here's a mocked up version </div><div>with a border of 1 around most of the elements (and I unbolded the </div><div>outliner titles). If I find the time I'm also going to try putting the outliner</div><div>titles into a outset frame.... OK mocking it up was easy - the 'traits</div><div>conanicalString' title is in a frame; the other titles just have their</div><div>fonts modified.</div><div><br></div><div>And by the way Russell, the new 'saving your snapshot' look is great.</div><div>Simple and attractive.</div><div><img id="30cd66f9-4dbe-4e81-8653-a00ba0e4a240" height="676" width="895" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:AAAE7122-DD6F-4FB5-8862-C7A3E4124A4E"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Looks pretty rad. A bit too much space for my taste :D<div>Cheers Jan</div><div><br><div><div><div><div>On Feb 5, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Russell Allen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><div id="ygrp-text"><p style="clear: both; padding-top: 15px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; ">Hi guys,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>One thing I would like 4.5 to do is look and feel a bit more modern.<br><br>I've been trying out some small adjustments to fonts, spacing, colours etc and have a snapshot at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><a href="http://selflanguage.org/files/releases/4.5/experimental/050211.snap">http://selflanguage.org/files/releases/4.5/experimental/050211.snap</a><br><br>Try it out and let me know how it looks. It should look much better on Mac than Linux, I'm afraid, but I'm working on that.<br><br>The aim is to make incremental changes that add up to default niceness. I don't think it is particularly practical to do a whole themeing engine at the moment, there's too much cruft to uncruft. But of course don't let me stop you if you want to try it!<br><br>Russell<br><br></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><br><br><div width="1" style="color: white; clear: both; "></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>