<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>To be honest, I don't think Klein makes sense at this time. It's too experimental and there's too much new work needed to be done on it.</div><div><br></div><div>Porting the existing C++ VM to Windows and also ARM is a straight forward exercise treading an already travelled path: the VM has already moved from Solaris->Mac OS X->Linux and Sparc->PPC->x86</div><div><br></div><div>All that is needed is someone with time and suitable C++ skills. (Btw, if there is anyone qualified and interested in the task it might even be possible for some resources to be found to help fund it.)</div><div><br></div><div>- Russell</div><br><div><div>On 28/12/2010, at 4:20 PM, Josh Flowers wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div id="ygrp-text"><p>I'd love to have Self on a touch device, but I don't think it makes sense as a community focus (yet).<br>
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Seems to me that we're in the early stages of one of those resource management games - where you need to focus on getting the stuff that lets you build other stuff. In our case that means getting more active developers so we can work on a broader range of features.<br>
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The obvious move is a windows port, in which case Klein and maybe an OpenGL/GLUT layer make sense (assuming I fully understand what Klein brings to the party). Any other thoughts?<br>
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>> The other thing is, maybe we should pick a device and make it the main supported platform for self.<br>
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>> <a href="http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/touchbook.htm">http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/touchbook.htm</a><br>
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> It might be good to focus on one platform, but I don't think it should be a touchpad. Self would have to change a LOT to be useable without a mouse. See <a href="http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/07/ballmer-and-microsoft-still-doesnt-get-the-ipad.ars">http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/07/ballmer-and-microsoft-still-doesnt-get-the-ipad.ars</a> for some examples of how an environment has to be designed for touch interaction. This is something Apple's been able to (and had to) put a bazillion person-hours into for the iPad OS.<br>
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