<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I deployed a Squeak app to a classroom of uni students back in 2001 (2002?) and the major issue wasn't the colours so much as the lack of consistency in the way the gui worked (and the general flakiness of my code :) </div><div><br></div><div>Re themeing the outliners, I separated out some of my changes, but the outliner system needs a full theme engine to be written which is too much like hard work at the moment.</div><div><br></div><div>Russell</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On 17/06/2008, at 3:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="width: 655px; position: relative; font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; "><div id="ygrp-msg" style="width: 470px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 25px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; float: left; z-index: 1; line-height: 1.22em; "><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia; "><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; ">Russell,<br style="line-height: 1.22em; "><br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">Morphic did become far more colorful when it moved in Squeak. I liked<br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">this but many people were very critical of it and some even refused to<br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">even try Squeak because of the way it looked.<br style="line-height: 1.22em; "><br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">I didn't browse through your code so you might have already done this,<br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">but a common way to handle this kind of thing is to create "theme"<br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">objects that can be queried for the various colors and other kinds of<br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">details. This allows changes to be grouped together.<br style="line-height: 1.22em; "><br style="line-height: 1.22em; ">-- Jecel<br style="line-height: 1.22em; "></p></div><span width="1" style="color: white; line-height: 1.22em; "></span></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>