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Dear Jecel:
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>> Yes, they do not try because they cannot even understand
it!!
<p>Check out these student's experiences with Self:
<p> <a href="http://www.daimi.aau.dk/dAOP/report-group4.pdf">http://www.daimi.aau.dk/dAOP/report-group4.pdf</a>
<p>There were some things they liked, a lot that they didn't. But they
<br>didn't have the kinds of problems you seem to imply the "most important
<br>researchers" are having with the language.
<p>> I have finished reading this report!!It obviously coincides with</blockquote>
my feelings and expectations about Self.
<br>I am sure the graphical editor to design ecobuildings we designed
<br>together and you implemented it in Self is far more evolved than
<br>their very simple text editor.
<br>And I am sure they have much more problems than we simply
<br>because they do not have a robust domain model. I believe
<br>the data structure used does not fully exploit Selfs potential.
<br>In our case we exhausted Selfs potentials and opened the gate
<br>for Self/Us.
<p>Your idea of telling me that not all people think the same way
<br>and so on does not fit at all in the context of computer science
<br>especially while SCIENCE and even as art!!!!
<p>Every researcher that wants to be called a scientific researcher
<br>has the moral responsibility of evidencing truth (this is also
<br>valid for artistic researchers, art is also a scientifc experience!!!).
<p>So what I feel is that researchers in computer science like architects
<br>forget about science and try to deliver just what adapts to
<br>a reality of poor technology and what market demands.
<p>I am sure I will never run the risk of falling into this category. And
of
<br>course I intend to join a Symposium about Sustainable
Development and a
<br>New System of Societal Values to be held in Austria in December
<br>to deal with this issue!!
<p>Thank you very much for the excellent reference to the report above.
<br>Indeed I am a great fan of the Beta group!!!!!
<p>Best wishes
<br>Albertina
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