[Self-interest] Self implementation in Python

[Stephen De Gabrielle]

Thanks. These look great 😀 I’m going to look at both today.

Can I ask why you abandoned the rpython implementation?

@Self-interest list: Is there a list of Self implementations?

Thank you to all in this community for keeping this fascinating and
important language alive!

Best regards

Stephen

On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 01:18, Bystroushaak <bystrousak at kitakitsune.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> if you are interested in rpython, you may be interested in my older and
> mostly-working implementation of Self-like language:
> https://github.com/Bystroushaak/tinySelf
>
> The project was later abandoned in favour of java/graalvm version (
> https://github.com/Bystroushaak/tinySelfEE ), which I develop from time
> to time, but it should be still possible to compile it and run for fun.
>
> On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 19:17 +0100, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > This is great.
> >
> > I’m wondering if it is possible (or sensible) to use pypy/rpython JIT
> > generator?
> >
> > Bw
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> https://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/04/tutorial-writing-interpreter-with-pypy.html
> >
> > https://rpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 18:31, sin-ack <sin-ack at protonmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > > This looks pretty nice. Playing around with it a little, it was
> > > really cool seeing the original Self VM files load. I tried to
> > > get a mirror via `object asMirror', but it seems like `_Mirror'
> > > isn't implemented just yet. :)
> > >
> > > Your AST parsing looks pretty well done. It actually looks like
> > > my first attempt at a Self interpreter, only with less memory
> > > management stuff :) I'm curious to know whether you would want
> > > to switch to a bytecode interpreter in the future or keep it as
> > > a pure AST interpreter for ease of understanding.
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell memory management/GC is a non-goal to keep
> > > the interpreter fully portable. Is this correct?
> > >
> > > I checked out the GUI and it's already pretty nice as it is.
> > > Buttons could benefit from being less... large :), but it's
> > > already really usable (and more of a GUI than I came up with).
> > >
> > > Also, do you intend to maintain full compatibility with the
> > > original Self and its Transporter system, or are you willing
> > > to improve upon it later down the line?
> > >
> > > Hoping you decide to continue this project and looking forward
> > > to further developments!
> > >
> > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > On Tuesday, May 17th, 2022 at 6:40 AM, Luke McNeil <
> > > lukemcneil61 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey everyone!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We’re a team of student engineers from Rose-Hulman Institute of
> > > Technology that’s been working on a Python implementation of Self
> > > for the past academic year. We began developing this system since
> > > the Self virtual machine is currently unable to be easily run on
> > > most modern operating systems (without setting up a virtual machine
> > > to emulate older 32-bit operating systems).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Our system is designed to parse and interpret Self inputs in a
> > > similar manner to the Self environment and virtual machine. The
> > > system comes with its own GUI framework to demonstrate its features
> > > that is extensible by users, and the framework itself serves as a
> > > proof-of-concept for implementing Morphic-related features in the
> > > future. The interpreter’s implementation is bootstrapped, meaning
> > > that higher-level features like lists and strings are directly
> > > imported from their respective Self modules, which we file out from
> > > the original Self system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We hope that this project will serve not only as a useful
> > > educational tool for introducing engineers to alternative
> > > programming paradigms, but also as a convenient environment for
> > > Self development. If you’re interested in exploring our system
> > > further, we’ve prepared a video demo for your convenience (here).
> > > You can also visit our repository on GitHub below. We welcome your
> > > thoughts and feedback!
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/pinneyja/self-interpreter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Rose-Hulman Self Interpreter Team
> > > >
> > > > (Nathaniel Blanco, Achintya Gupta, Luke McNeil, Jacob Pinney)
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