[Self-interest] Total newbie needs some help

Colin Sare-Soar colin.saresoar at terrashape.co.uk
Tue Jul 20 11:12:58 UTC 2021


Hi,
Attached is the output from starting core.snap.

Cheers Colin 

> On 20/07/2021 14:20 Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi, 
> Something is stopping Self from booting into its prompt (the VM# indicates you are still in the underlying VM prompt), that is why ‘help’ and ‘desktop open’ etc don’t work.
> 
> _Quit works because it is a primitive (primitive methods start with an underscore)
> 
> Can you cut and paste everything from your shell command up to the VM# prompt? The error messages might tell me what is going on
> 
> Cheers Russell
> 
> > On 18 Jul 2021, at 7:47 pm, Colin Sare-Soar <colin.saresoar at terrashape.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Russell,
> > The terminal goes through a list of actions up to No. #29 (<postRead Snapshot>:1): and the cursor sits there showing VM#.
> > quitNoSave produces 11 errors and still leaves me at the VM# prompt. _Quit works fine.
> > Other commands like 'help' or 'desktop open' (all without quotes) also produce 11 error messages.
> > 
> > I haven't found any documentation yet that says what commands should be available in the core.snapshot but working through some material in either morphic or kitchensink seems to all work fine.
> > it's rather a steep learning curve at the moment.
> > 
> > Colin
> > 
> > 
> >> On 18/07/2021 12:51 Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Colin,
> >> 
> >> When you are at the command line and do
> >> 
> >> Self -s core.snap
> >> 
> >> or your equivalent, what does your terminal show?
> >> 
> >> From the terminal you can quit without saving by ‘quitNoSave’ or ‘_Quit’
> >> 
> >> Cheers Russell
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 18 Jul 2021, at 3:35 pm, Colin Sare-Soar <colin.saresoar at terrashape.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Russell, 
> >>> 
> >>> Those commands did the trick, in fact I found them in handbook once I started reading it. 
> >>> 
> >>> I started the VM but used the 'core.snap' file and not much seemed to happen. I tried to follow some instructions in a blog but things like help or desktop open had no effect and just produced an error message. I also could not find any way to shutdown the VM, short of closing the terminal. 
> >>> 
> >>> I see that the graphical images have a 'quit' menu item but how do you close the core VM? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I will start one of the other images and hopefully things will start to make more sense. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Colin
> >>>> On 17/07/2021 09:13 Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> HI Colin,
> >>>> The VM is a 32 bit binary and is looking for the 32 bit versions of those libraries. You need to install these.
> >>>> For Debian, I think you need to do something like:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
> >>>> sudo apt-get update
> >>>> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> But I haven’t tried this particular magic incantation for a while.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I don’t have the time at the moment, but someone should do this up as a docker image.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best Russell
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>
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