[Self-interest] Total newbie needs some help

[Russell Allen]

Hi, 
Something is stopping Self from booting into its prompt (the VM# indicates you are still in the underlying VM prompt), that is why ‘help’ and ‘desktop open’ etc don’t work.

_Quit works because it is a primitive (primitive methods start with an underscore)

Can you cut and paste everything from your shell command up to the VM# prompt? The error messages might tell me what is going on

Cheers Russell

> On 18 Jul 2021, at 7:47 pm, Colin Sare-Soar <colin.saresoar at terrashape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Russell,
> The terminal goes through a list of actions up to No. #29 (<postRead Snapshot>:1): and the cursor sits there showing VM#.
> quitNoSave produces 11 errors and still leaves me at the VM# prompt. _Quit works fine.
> Other commands like 'help' or 'desktop open' (all without quotes) also produce 11 error messages.
> 
> I haven't found any documentation yet that says what commands should be available in the core.snapshot but working through some material in either morphic or kitchensink seems to all work fine.
> it's rather a steep learning curve at the moment.
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
>> On 18/07/2021 12:51 Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Colin,
>> 
>> When you are at the command line and do
>> 
>> Self -s core.snap
>> 
>> or your equivalent, what does your terminal show?
>> 
>> From the terminal you can quit without saving by ‘quitNoSave’ or ‘_Quit’
>> 
>> Cheers Russell
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Jul 2021, at 3:35 pm, Colin Sare-Soar <colin.saresoar at terrashape.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Russell, 
>>> 
>>> Those commands did the trick, in fact I found them in handbook once I started reading it. 
>>> 
>>> I started the VM but used the 'core.snap' file and not much seemed to happen. I tried to follow some instructions in a blog but things like help or desktop open had no effect and just produced an error message. I also could not find any way to shutdown the VM, short of closing the terminal. 
>>> 
>>> I see that the graphical images have a 'quit' menu item but how do you close the core VM? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will start one of the other images and hopefully things will start to make more sense. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>>> On 17/07/2021 09:13 Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> HI Colin,
>>>> The VM is a 32 bit binary and is looking for the 32 bit versions of those libraries. You need to install these.
>>>> For Debian, I think you need to do something like:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But I haven’t tried this particular magic incantation for a while.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t have the time at the moment, but someone should do this up as a docker image.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Russell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>