[Self-interest] OurSelf trial now without invite!

[David Ungar]

Interleaving...

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
> 
> The short story is:
> 
> 4 cheap cloud servers, running in Sydney, Silicon Valley and Tokyo and one in Sydney as a manager. When you start a trial Self world through the webpage, the Self management code connects to one of those servers, and runs Self with your snapshot in a security jail. The Self VM connects to a X11 server, which is turned into a VNC remote desktop connection, which is then carried over a WebSocket to your browser. There are quite a few moving parts unfortunately. 

Wow, amazing. I'm impressed.


> 
> There are a strictly limited number of Self instances which can run at any one time, but there’s scope to scale up or out.

The future is even better than flying cars.

> 
> So what you see in your browser is effectively a X11 desktop with a full screen window open, which is why when you started the spy it covered up the Self desktop. I think there is a key combo which you could have used to switch back and forth.

Oh, thanks.

> 
> I hadn’t thought about ui1, but it it should be possible to get it to work since it uses X11. If I get some time I’ll try it out.

Thanks in advance.

> 
> On the back end, ie not the trial worlds, each running Self instance has access to a persistent directory which can be used for the transporter so I have been developing the system recently entirely through the web. I can export modules to a git repo then push that to GitHub, and can also rebuild my snapshot from those sources from within Self (or by cheating and ssh-ing into the server). 

Very cool!

> 
> What you probably didn’t try was the morphic multiuser code. Jason Grossman and I did a test the other day and it worked nicely. The system gave us both a username/password and a url to log on. We then each got a view of the shared desktop etc. It would be interesting to see how many people we can do at once.

Yes, it would. No, didn't try it.

Wow, Russell. I'm really touched to see this. Thanks again!

- David

> 
> Russell
> 
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2020, at 3:46 pm, David Ungar <ungar at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm amazed! I was able to get a gas tank going. And turned on the spy, but it obliterated the desktop, till I turned it off with the console. Wow!! 
>> 
>> What would it take to get ui1 to work?
>> 
>> Where is this really running? How is it working??
>> 
>> Thank you so very much!
>> 
>> - David
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Russell Allen <mail at russell-allen.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m reasonably confident that although it might not always work, the OurSelf code won’t screw up my servers in a way which is hard to fix, so I’ve  removed the need for an invite to try out an online Self world.
>>> 
>>> https://ourself.io 
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you try it and it works (or doesn’t!). As a reminder, you choose a server near you and get a link to a morphic desktop, and also to a console. After 20 minutes or so the trial is deleted so don’t worry about breaking anything.
>>> 
>>> Also if you are interested in playing more seriously (saving snapshots etc) or want to try a shared world, send me an email.
>>> 
>>> The existing trial world is very boring! My next step is to start to add interesting applications to play around with.
>>> 
>>> :) Russell
>>> 
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