[Self-interest] Self + Kids + iPad
kjx at ecs.vuw.ac.nz
Tue Nov 17 22:51:10 UTC 2020
It gives me more KORZ to deconstrut the underlying model of Self...
> On 18/11/2020, at 6:49AM, David Ungar <ungar at mac.com> wrote:
> Does the existence of the Transporter factor into your thoughts?
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Baltasar García Perez-Schofield <baltasarq at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>> The current difficulty with OurSelf is that I need to share Self
>>> snapshots between multiple servers, so they can be updated and run.
>>> The first obvious solution was to have a folder full of snapshots and
>>> scp them to the server just before use. However I need to be able to
>>> develop the Self worlds as well as run them, which means we need not
>>> just the snapshot but the Self Git tree. Which is about 180M. And I
>>> would like to be able in the future to have a snapshot+storage which
>>> includes images etc, which could be much larger again.
>> This is the main weakness of Self and other similar programming
>> languages which rely on a snapshot (Squeak, SmallTalk). This could be
>> solved by a true persistent system.
>> But it is even worse, since if you want to just open a browser, then
>> (AFAIK) it has to be included in your snapshot.
>> In my opinion, 10MB just to be able to send a message "Hello world!"
>> and see it replicated on screen is too much.
>> -- Baltasar
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