[Self-interest] Self + Kids + iPad

David Ungar ungar at mac.com
Tue Nov 17 17:49:56 UTC 2020


Does the existence of the Transporter factor into your thoughts?

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Baltasar GarcĂ­a Perez-Schofield <baltasarq at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> 
>> The current difficulty with OurSelf is that I need to share Self
>> snapshots between multiple servers, so they can be updated and run.
>> The first obvious solution was to have a folder full of snapshots and
>> scp them to the server just before use. However I need to be able to
>> develop the Self worlds as well as run them, which means we need not
>> just the snapshot but the Self Git tree. Which is about 180M. And I
>> would like to be able in the future to have a snapshot+storage which
>> includes images etc, which could be much larger again.
> 
> This is the main weakness of Self and other similar programming
> languages which rely on a snapshot (Squeak, SmallTalk). This could be
> solved by a true persistent system.
> 
> But it is even worse, since if you want to just open a browser, then
> (AFAIK) it has to be included in your snapshot.
> 
> In my opinion, 10MB just to be able to send a message "Hello world!"
> and see it replicated on screen is too much.
> 
> -- Baltasar
> 
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