[Self-interest] slow systems (was: OurSelf trial nowwithout invite!)

David Harris drdpharris at gmail.com
Thu Dec 3 16:59:00 UTC 2020


Paul --
Thanks!  I will read your paperwith interest.  I had had ideas around an
APL system back then too.
David


On Thu., Dec. 3, 2020, 07:46 Paul Chapman, <paul at igblan.free-online.co.uk>
wrote:

> David & David,
>
> > no machine can figure out what I need to be able to see as well as I can
>
> Because I didn’t know in advance what my workflow would look like, I
> deliberately designed DE so that any of the six windows could display any
> of the available views. This would be my approach in a non-overlapping
> Smalltalk environment, which at least partially answers your objection.
>
> > Morphic/Self was maybe two hours better at the 3am test than any of the
> "modern" IDEs
>
> 3am? That’s my primetime. :)
>
> > Our debugger reified each frame, so you could see as many as you wanted
> to, at once. Could yank them out, rearrange them, make a column morph of
> just the slots you wanted to see.
>
> This approach looks great, but I still say it can be achieved with
> non-overlapping windows. Yes, allow lots of windows. But also allow the
> user to design and save bespoke non-overlapping layouts which suit her
> workflow.
>
> > Is the I-APL code available anywhere, such as github?
>
> Sadly, no. It might be on a buried CD-ROM somewhere in my flat. If I ever
> get around to sorting out my archives, I might find it.
>
> I first encountered APL when searching through wastebaskets in room 404
> (!) of the Electrical Engineering building at Imperial College, London, for
> poorly overprinted passwords. It was initially indecipherable, since there
> were no keywords. So I’d enjoy posting my source code without syntax or
> semantic definitions to similarly confuse modern programmers. :)
>
> I can, however, point you to a copy of my only published paper, on the
> development of I-APL, delivered at APL88 in Sydney, which I retrieved from
> Sci-Hub recently because of course it’s otherwise behind a paywall.
>
> http://igblan.co.uk/i-apl/paper.pdf
>
> It calls out some of the claims in my last post as falsehoods! Memory is
> sometimes unreliable.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
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