[self-interest] Better organisation of globals?

Stephen De Gabrielle spdegabrielle at gmail.com
Mon Feb 2 20:52:46 UTC 2015


Thanks,

Is the preprint available? The paper is behind the ACM paywall. :(

Stephen

[Would you believe I just renewed my ACM membership. I thought I could skip
DL for a year, I have heaps of papers I need to read. ]
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 20:03, David Ungar ungar at me.com [self-interest] <
self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Korz is a new, symmetric multidimensional paradigm--there's a paper on it
> in Onward! 2014--that I'm very interested in these days. (My answer was
> tongue-in-cheek--sorry if I wasn't clear about that.) Bayesian was intended
> to mean using probabilities instead of 0-or-1.
>
> The problem with using anything in Self to do this--although that's all we
> have--is that Self lacks native support for multidimensional,
> non-Aristotelian conceptual frameworks. So, if you want that, I guess you
> need to find an idiom.
>
> Example, a small int is an integer, it is also (disjunction or
> conjunction?) a set of powers-of-two (so is sorta a collection), and is
> also performant. There are three dimensions with a sorta in one.
>
> - David
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle spdegabrielle at gmail.com
> [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> What is 'Bayesian Korz' ?
> Would it allow you to have an object in both Platform and 'graphical
> interface'?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Stephen
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 at 08:05, David Ungar ungar at me.com [self-interest] <
> self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You need Bayesian Korz, or a simulation of it. No one-dimensional,
>> Aristotelian framework will be great. :)
>>
>> - David (from iPad, typos likely)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Russell Allen mail at russell-allen.com
>> [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The current organisation of objects in 'globals' into categories bears
>> all the hallmarks of organic growth, and I've found it a bit hard to work
>> out where things are. (There is also scope for cleanups of some of the more
>> unused objects but we'll look at that later)
>>
>> I've added a branch to the GitHub sources 'reorg' and have built a trial
>> snapshot with an attempt at something more 'discoverable'.
>>
>> I'd love feedback; either build the version in the reorg branch or
>> download a prebuilt snapshot at:
>>
>> http://files.selflanguage.org/temp/reorg.snap
>>
>> The story about the top level is basically:
>>
>> applications - anything outside the main Self release, eg webservers etc
>> core - core language objects such as numbers, collections, booleans etc
>> graphical interface - code for morphic, ui1 etc
>> platform - objects to interface with the underlying platform (eg OS X etc)
>> system - objects relating to the Self system, such as the system logger,
>> the transporter, reflection facilities etc
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Cheers, Russell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
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