[self-interest] Quiet in Self land?
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Wed Sep 17 03:15:17 UTC 2014
On 16 Sep 2014, at 9:39 pm, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r at gmail.com [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:34 AM, "Russell Allen mail at russell-allen.com [self-interest]" <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> On 16 Sep 2014, at 5:17 pm, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r at gmail.com [self-interest] <self-interest at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> Web development framework. Okay, so that isn't really fun at all, but it *might* create some new interest in the project.
>> We now have an almost web server, which I'm running selflangauge.org on behind nginx
>> For the simple sites I've written most web frameworks seem weirdly complex to me, but it's not my area so I assume they are useful for people who need them.
> Awesome. Can I read the code somewhere?
I've split it out into http://github.com/russellallen/self-webserver
It's more a sketch of a webserver than something real :)
> Haha, but that defeats the entire point. The browser must be written in Self. That's how I get to fire my operating system. It could be Self, it could be Squeak, but if we ever built a web browser, we could seriously run on nearly bare metal and get by. It's an enormous amount of work to support a broken paradigm though, so I'm not oblivious to why it hasn't happened yet.
You could easily have a Linux kernel boot into Self (with or without a really cut down userland)
Big problems for me are:
(1) only 32 bit. So either we write a new 64 bit VM, or we run lots of Self vms messaging each other
(2) complete lack of security within a Self world. ie code can do abominations like "0 _Quit"
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