[self-interest] [Ann][Quack] Self 4.5.0 ("Mallard") released

Russell Allen mail at russell-allen.com
Tue Jan 14 12:25:02 UTC 2014

On 14 Jan 2014, at 11:55 am, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> On 14.01.2014, at 01:22, David Ungar <ungar at me.com> wrote:
>> I run a Self VM with X11 on Mavericks OK. It would be great if the distributed VM binary and/or build script would just assume you have X11. If you don't, IIRC, OSX makes it easy to download and install it.
>> I did some joint programming in Self during the past year and the shared environment was very valuable. I'd be sorry to see it fall into disuse because of this issue--well, relative disuse, anyway.
> The X11 stuff can easily be built but it is not in the currently distributed DMG, IIRC.
> If Russell builds a X11+Quartz vm and releases it (either replacing 4.5.0 or being 4.5.1).
> would that fit your workflow?

I can absolutely build a X11+Quartz vm and put it in the extras folder of the DMG. 

I've built one and uploaded it to:


David, can you or someone else who uses the X11 functionality check whether this works like the old VM? I'm not 100% sure how to test it.

I don't think it is a good idea to make it the default VM. Most people won't have X11 on their mac, which means they will have to download and install a ~90MB package from a non-Apple third party before the VM will work at all, even if they never use the screen sharing.


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