[self-interest] [Ann][Quack] Self 4.5.0 ("Mallard") released

[Russell Allen]

A few things came out of this:

- There is still interest in Self. The blog announcement logged almost 25,000 views in the last 24 hours and stayed on the front page of HN and r/programming for hours
- The website needs a refresh with a focus on people outside the community eg getting started material, simple explanations of what Self is
- screencasts are good. People found the existing screencasts by Chris Double and others very useful.
- a Windows version would be good
- Morphic based visual programming is divisive, and will both attract and deter users
- People like puns

My favourite comment from Reddit, which we should take to heart:

"Interesting, it looks like some variant of Smalltalk. Hopefully we'll see more innovation in OOP."

Russell

On 13 Jan 2014, at 10:54 pm, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Someone submitted the link to HN, just wanted to point out the discussion thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7047953
> 
> 
> 2014/1/13 Chris Double <chris.double at double.co.nz>
>  
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Baltasar <baltasarq at gmail.com> wrote:
> > #vm 'worldBuilder.self' _RunScript
> 
> If you want to run these scripts, best to do it with cwd set to the
> 'objects' subdirectory. So I do:
> 
> $ cd objects
> objects$ ../Self
> VM# 'worldBuilder.self' _RunScript
> 
> I describe something like this at:
> 
> <http://bluishcoder.co.nz/2009/07/27/building-and-using-self-on-linux.html>
> 
> Note that the build instructions there are out of date but it should
> give you the idea.
> 
> 
> 
> > Another, completely different issue is how bad the font is seen in Ubuntu. Maybe is just that the system font is too small in the title window, and in the buttons: Get it, Do it and Close. Can that be somehow fixed?
> 
> Fonts are horrible, I agree. See my attempts at working on this here
> to get Xft support:
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/self-interest/conversations/messages/2927>
> 
> 
> > Finally, in the self page the tutorial in: http://selflanguage.org/_static/tutorial/index.htmlis recommended. The problem is how to start. Nowhere is to be found how to create a new, empty object, so you can start with the balance example.
> 
> To get an empty object evaluate: (| |)
> You can then add parents,etc from the GUI. Or you can also do: (|
> parent* = traits clonable |) copy
> 
> If you do "Get it" vs "Do it" you get the object instance in the hand.
> 
> -- 
> http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernat Romagosa.
> 
> 

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