[self-interest] Error: module object: <0> has no name .

Tue Sep 6 00:50:33 UTC 2011

Mildred,

FWIW, I'm looking at it now. Your snapshot had some interface changes that I decided to roll back to ca. 1994, and that took me a bit of time first.
Nice to reactivate the old neural pathways!

- David

On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Russell Allen wrote:

> Hi Mildred,
> 
> I would strongly recommend using the interface to deal with modules 
> rather than trying to manage them manually which is what it sounds like 
> you are doing.
> 
> I don't know how far you've been able to read so far, but there is a 
> description of what the Transporter is doing at
> 
> http://docs.selflanguage.org/howtoprg.html#the-transporter
> 
> and also you should work through the tutorial at
> 
> http://selflanguage.org/_static/tutorial/Tutorial/index.html
> 
> which needs updating but is still a good way of getting your head round 
> things and describes the process of making sure your objects have a 
> canonical name (ie a creator path from the lobby) and that each of their 
> slots has a module noted in its annotation.
> 
> The key to understanding the Transporter is that it doesn't file out 
> objects per se, but sets of slots positioned relative to the lobby.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Russell
> 
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:12:40 +0200, Jan-Paul Bultmann wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I can only speculate what goes wrong, maybe the guys just getting up,
> > there over the big pond now a bit more ;)
> >
> > Normaly Self identifies its objects by the place they are found in
> > the Lobby, to give them the name, so when you get "a slots object"
> > this means that it is not registered somewhere with or as a proto.
> >
> > Secondly, modules are normally generated not by Lobby inheritance (as
> > you seem to assume when you state that the module Object looks the
> > same as the other)
> > but they are (additonally? sorry I never got that deep^^) expressed
> > in slot annotations.
> > As the transporter doesn't group objects into modules but slots. This
> > is so that you can modify std Objects and ship those Modifications
> > with your App.
> >
> > I hope this helps at least a little bit :)
> >
> > Btw, if you like you could take a look at the #self-lang channel for
> > some chat and insta debugging help :) (or open jabber where I already
> > spammed you :P)
> >
> > Cheers Jan
> >
> > On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote:
> >
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to hack the klein application, and I added a new
> >> "assemblerSystems llvm" object. I set its parent* to
> >> "assemblerSystems framework" and set the slot parent* to be in a
> > new
> >> module asmLLVM which I set to be a child of asmKit.
> >>
> >> Everything seems fine. If I look at the changed modules, I get
> >> asmKit and asmLLVM. I both write them to the disk and close the
> >> image.
> >>
> >> Next session, I load the klein/vmKits.self file (I suppose it's the
> >> parent module for all other modules) ... and I get a strange error:
> >>
> >> Error: module object: has no name .
> >> Receiver is: a slots object.
> >>
> >> Apparently, a new module got inserted in the registery ..
> > I assume you mean Lobby by this :)?
> >
> >> . If I look at the offending object, it seems to be a rightful
> >> module except the window says "a slots object". But it looks like
> >> any module out there, including parent*
> >> The call on "name" happens in an ascendingOrder message.
> >>
> >> The problem is that this exception prevents me from getting the
> >> list of changed modules, and saving them. I don't know how I could
> >> fix this.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Mildred
> >
> > 
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