[self-interest] How is "a slots object" created

Michael Latta lattam at mac.com
Wed Feb 9 22:48:02 UTC 2011

For the most part languages are about ecosystems. The successful Smalltalk implementations have bigger libraries, more trained developers, butter marketing, etc. And Smalltalk is a nich compared to ruby, erlang, and the other "newer" languages that get attention these days. Without a corporate sponsor self is unlikely to be more than a research project. 


On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Duke Normandin <dukeofperl at ml1.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Michael Latta wrote:
>> Self was not available until after Smalltalk lost the battle to
>> java. Not having a windows port also still hurts it's
>> adoption. Mostly though I would say it never got critical mass in
>> terms of the community behind it.
> So, would it be fair to say that Sun "killed" Self by opting for Java
> to go head-to-head with Smalltalk? Then when Java was "safe", it
> released Self.
> Of course with Self available only on Sparcs, it never had a chance to
> get the critical mass that it needed to show its stuff.
> That was then! What about now? Surely being available on the OS X and
> Linux should make all the difference in the world. Is the Smalltalk
> community mostly on Windoze, and will stay put until Self is ported to
> it?
> -- 
> Duke
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