[self-interest] Klein, ARM and Self Hardware

[Dexter Mishra]

Well I have followed self for some time. To be frank for few months I have
diverted from compiler development, but I wont mind working on a C++ port of
VM.

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jan-Paul Bultmann
<janpaulbultmann at me.com>wrote:

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> I was talking about the dev environment for Klein on an arm not because I
> wanted everybody to drop everything and get a beagle board, that would
> probably hit the wall pretty fast.
> It was merely to get some ideas and discussion.
> I gathered some friends, they are not that interested in self (one can't
> blame them, they are either total c freaks or the java generation...hope
> that will change :)),
> but they started to drool when I told them about a free beagleboard in
> exchange for some thoughts on compiler development.
> Maybe they will catch the bait and I can collect a small Klein team over
> here :D
> So don't worry about it any longer, just wait :)
>
> Cheers Jan
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> On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Russell Allen wrote:
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> To be honest, I don't think Klein makes sense at this time.  It's too
> experimental and there's too much new work needed to be done on it.
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> I totally agree on that :)
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> Porting the existing C++ VM to Windows and also ARM is a straight forward
> exercise treading an already travelled path: the VM has already moved from
> Solaris->Mac OS X->Linux and Sparc->PPC->x86
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> All that is needed is someone with time and suitable C++ skills.  (Btw, if
> there is anyone qualified and interested in the task it might even be
> possible for some resources to be found to help fund it.)
>
> I would love to do that, but I don't have any c++ skills and don't plan to
> get them :D
>
> - Russell
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> On 28/12/2010, at 4:20 PM, Josh Flowers wrote:
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> I'd love to have Self on a touch device, but I don't think it makes sense
> as a community focus (yet).
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> Totally agree on that too.
>
> Seems to me that we're in the early stages of one of those resource
> management games - where you need to focus on getting the stuff that lets
> you build other stuff. In our case that means getting more active developers
> so we can work on a broader range of features.
>
> The obvious move is a windows port, in which case Klein and maybe an
> OpenGL/GLUT layer make sense (assuming I fully understand what Klein brings
> to the party). Any other thoughts?
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> >> The other thing is, maybe we should pick a device and make it the main
> supported platform for self.
> >> I was thinking about something like this
> >> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/touchbook.htm
> >
> > It might be good to focus on one platform, but I don't think it should be
> a touchpad. Self would have to change a LOT to be useable without a mouse.
> See
> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/07/ballmer-and-microsoft-still-doesnt-get-the-ipad.arsfor some examples of how an environment has to be designed for touch
> interaction. This is something Apple's been able to (and had to) put a
> bazillion person-hours into for the iPad OS.
> >
> > Jason
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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