[self-interest] Re: Self at Sourceforge CVS Tree

Russell Allen mail at russell-allen.com
Wed Jun 4 12:00:36 UTC 2008

OK, I have a compiled executable on Ubuntu 8.10.   Woohoo!

At the moment it loads the Demo snapshot, but the desktop doesn't   
come up.

This presumably means that the integration with X11 has gone wrong  

I'll have another try in a few days.

(PS: the Self VM has an enormous amount of debugging info!  strip took  
the VM from 168M -> 1.6M!)

russell-desktop:~/Desktop> ./Self -s Demo.snap
for I386:  LogVMMessages = true
for I386:  PrintScriptName  = true
for I386:  Inline = true
for I386:  SICDeferUncommonBranches = false (not implemented)
for I386:  SICReplaceOnStack = false (not implemented)
for I386:  SaveOutgoingArgumentsOfPatchedFrames = true

	Welcome to the Self system!  (Version 4.2)

Copyright 1992-2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. and Stanford University.
See the LICENSE file for license information.

Type _Credits for full credits.

VM version: 4.1.12

Adjusting VM for better UI2 performance:
   _MaxPICSize: 25
"Self 2" desktop open
Error: ENOSYS.
Receiver is: raiseError.
To debug in ui2, type:      selfProcessModel debugProcess: 0 as
to debug in console, type:  attach: 0
to dump stack, type:        0 as printError.
The desktop is already open!
"Self 3" desktop go
Warning: Self 1(type: worldMorph) cannot go; no sourceHands.
"Self 4" 3 + 4
"Self 5" quit
Save to Demo.snap before quitting?
   y => save, then quit
   n => quit without saving
   RET => cancel
Response: n

On 03/06/2008, at 10:44 PM, Russell Allen wrote:

> Thanks.  I don't have an actual linux machine myself at the moment -  
> I'm just working off vmware.
> Preliminary play with the latest Ubuntu seems to get most of the way  
> (once various libraries have been included).  I can get it to more  
> or less work up to the final link stage before ld crashes.
> One problem I'm not sure how to get around is that Self seems to  
> want to use termcap rather than ncurses which isn't supported on  
> debian based systems.
> I'll play some more and see if I get anywhere.
> Cheers,
> Russell
> On 01/06/2008, at 2:21 PM, Adam Spitz wrote:
>> --- In self-interest at yahoogroups.com, "russell.allen23" <mail at ...>  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have Ubuntu set up on Vmware on my mac, and have checked out  
>> the sf.net
>> > cvs tree, but frankly am a bit daunted by where to start compiling.
>> >
>> > In linux I would expect the standard gnuish ./configure; make;  
>> make install but I'm not
>> > sure where to start with Self.
>> >
>> > I don't suppose there is a recipe out there of the 'go to vm/ 
>> linux and make
>> > interpreter' sort to get me started?
>> For now, if I had to guess, I'd say try something like:
>> add $SELF_WORKING_DIR/bin/linux and $SELF_WORKING_DIR/bin/shell to  
>> your path
>> be sure you've got csh installed
>> cd $SELF_WORKING_DIR/bin/linux; make
>> cd $SELF_WORKING_DIR/vm/linux/generated; make lists
>> cd $SELF_WORKING_DIR/vm/linux/optimized; make
>> I'm trying to get myself a Linux machine over here, so I can play  
>> with this myself. Haven't
>> gotten it set up yet, though.
>> Adam

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