[self-interest] (Aspects) Utilities in Lisp vs Design Patternsin Smalltalk- Self

Albertina Lourenci lourenci at lsi.usp.br
Thu Apr 24 23:26:49 UTC 2003



Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
Hi Jecel!
Well the papers I have selected are not written by novice in computer
science!!! And indeed it was exactly some of them that had led me
to Self!!!
Bye
Albertina

On Thursday 24 April 2003 13:23, Albertina Lourenci wrote:

> > I have not been chatting about this because I am delving deeper into
> > these topics! And I would appreciate an in-depth analysis because
> > I do think it is of the utmost importance for the future of software
> > towards implementation of complex systems!
>
> These are actually basic programming topics, so you might have more luck
> finding information about them in a introductory text than in a
> advanced PhD thesis.
>
> > David Harris wrote:
> > > But, in reality, most people design in both directions at once --
> > > as it is important to thing about the low-level implementation at
> > > the same time as considering the overall stategy or hight-level
> > > shape of the program.
>
> Exactly - you must both watch where you are stepping and yet keep your
> eye on where you are going. Creating random low level components
> without thinking about the higher level modules that will use them will
> get you nowhere. And defining high level abstractions without knowing
> what is available to implement is a sure way to get a project stuck in
> the design phase without ever moving to the programming phase.
>
> But it isn't easy to do both at the same time, which is one of the
> reasons why I think that pair programming in extreme programming is a
> good idea.
>
> -- Jecel
>
>
>
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