Self's evolution?

Albertina Lourenci lourenci at
Sat Nov 3 13:10:06 UTC 2001

ACockburn at wrote:

Is this Algirdas Julien Greimas? I want to study him in depth
Winfried e-mailed me a chapter on him from his Handbook of
Semiotics in Portuguese (he is still writing it).

So you see I am dividing my time right now between having to
read Greimas in depth and Apel's books.

The experts concern with separation of concerns (Ossher, Tarr et al)

criticize the tyranny of decomposition only in terms of function, rule,
procedure, class or object. Likewise Greimas criticizes the theory
of the signs. He believes there should be higher reasoning structures
above and  below the sign (a word).
The recent interest in component-programming languages as well as
with separation of concerns, aspects etc is an isomorphic concern
to Greimas's concern.

I will delve deeper into this from now on. Jim Coplien's PhD thesis
Multi-paradigm design in essence seems to have the same concerns.
And like you Alistair what puzzles me is that he manages to see this
in the context of C++! I was delighted to realize this. At first sight
in April I thought his was proposing a fusion of rule, logic, procedural

paradigms. I have read so many papers about this and I think it was
rather disgusting!

For me the Self language is the one that fits better within the context
of "a semiotic, hermeneutic and autopoietic Machine". I believe we
can see it within  a multi-paradigm design perspective!

It can be embellished with aspects, reflective architectures and the
of design patterns coping with macrocomponents.

I am happy that Jim Coplien e-mailed me the following attachment
about Metaphor and methonymy in object oriented design patterns
and I am happy because it is also written by James Noble, a Self's

Have  afun-filled, creative weekend

> p.s., Also, and I don't have your book in this building with me here,
> I enjoyed your description of information at the receiver's end - If I
> had the book here I'd mention the name of the person you describe who
> has the theory (French name starts with A...?)
>  This is a topic I separately bring up and develop in my book,
> cheers
> Alistair Cockburn
> Humans and Technology
> Author of "Agile Software Development"
> ---"Surviving Object-Oriented Projects"
> ---and the Jolt Productivity Award winning "Writing Effective Use
> Cases"
> alistair.cockburn at
> 7691 Dell Rd.
> Salt Lake City, UT 84121
> Work Phone: 801.947.9275
> Fax: 775.416.6457
> "La perfection est atteinte non quand il ne reste rien a ajouter,
> mais quand il ne reste rien a enlever." (Saint-Exupery)
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