papers needed

Albertina Lourenci lourenci at
Thu Jan 18 16:11:48 UTC 2001

Brian Rice wrote:

Hi Brian:

I cannot separate knowledge engineering from programming as Thilo
puts forward.
Anyhow I have downloaded your "Arrow system"., which I could not
read yet although sounds intriguing.
Would you please e-mail me or indicate a site for me to download
the paper Brandt & Schmidt The design of a meta-level architecture
for the Beta language?

Hi, Selfers:
Moreover I am  needing the paper Fridmann & Wand84: Reification:
reflection without metaphysics in Proceedings of the 1984 Conference
on Lisp and Functional Programming, pp.348-355, 1984

Coud you kindly if possible fax it to me ?

Fax: +55 11 211 4574

The recent papers on reflection I have been reading

are too much mixed with other areas of computer science

and it is hard for me to understand  the gist of reflection

and how to apply or use it.

Heartfelt thanks

Albertina                                 |

> >I think that Brian Rice's Arrow project/idea develops on more or less
> >the same view (although he likes to use bigger words). I don't know
> >where the Arrow site is today, or whether he's still working on it (last
> >I heard of him, he was working on the Slate language/object system), but
> >it should be somewhere in the server.
> >
> >-- Kaufmann
> >
> >"Every man is as God made him, yes, and often worse." - Miguel de Cervantes
> Definitely so, although arrow is on the "back-burner" while I make
> sure Slate works properly. Slate embodies some arrow concepts, but
> not even close to all of them. Arrow is an information system that's
> not really classifiable by the current state-of-the-art in
> information (or "knowledge") systems research. Unfortunately, my
> thesis papers on this subject are far out of date compared to my
> current state of knowledge on this (which has grown by orders of
> magnitude). Also, all of my research is amateur due to a lack of
> patronage. So for now, things are under wraps until I decide
> otherwise. Even so, the Tunes site has an early copy of my Arrow
> design philosophy draft.
> However, I don't believe that this discussion is really appropriate
> to this list. I'd rather hear less about the vague notions of
> "knowledge engineering" and more about language and system design
> issues. All knowledge is expressed in some language, whether at one
> level or another. A language expression might evaluate into a
> structure which is the information, or the expression itself might
> include or encapsulate the information in various ways. The
> intricacies of how this is done is embodied by studying what "meta"
> means in context, which incidentally is always relative to some core
> calculus, which in Self's case is not the language itself. The Self
> language in fact consists of several distinct phases of speaking
> about objects, which is part of my interest in it.
> Just my 2 cents' worth.
> ~

| Albertina Lourenci                                       |
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