complex concepts

[Albertina Lourenci]

David Ungar wrote:

Sorry I forgot to include the quantum physicist Jack Sarfatti
in the list, site:
http://www.well.com/user/sarfatti/index.html
or //stardrive.org/title.shtml

This group of physicists are also concerned in building
a quantum computer which is expected to model soul's
properties.

Cheers Albertina


> I actually did go through all the patterns in the GOF book, in
> preparation for my recent panel.
> In particular, only one of the object-creation patterns seemed legit to me.
>
> - Dave
>
> At 12:02 AM +0000 11/23/00, Bharat Bedia wrote:
> >--- In self-interest at egroups.com, Jecel Assumpcao Jr <jecel at m...>
> >wrote:
> >>  Me too. I was attracted to the practical side of Self's "exploratory
> >>  programming" style. Since you were asking about "analysis", I
> >thought
> >>  you meant things like Booch and UML and other things that I am not
> >>  familiar with, which is why I made no comment.
> >When i first got Self to work on my solaris machine I found it very
> >very cool. I very much enjoyed the freedom & exploratory style. But
> >like the old "Lord of the Rings" game on Commodore64 you can only
> >explore so much then you have to solve your mission objective!
> >Unfortunately, I don't have access to a Sun computer anymore so I
> >can't run Self :-(
> >
> >Everybody carries out some element of analysis. Some people call it
> >thinking others call it UML ;-) However, you can "analyse" until the
> >project manager screams at you then you must develop and code. I was
> >hoping to hear about various strategies and modelling techniques
> >people use to :
> >a. model the problem domain, and
> >b. convert the model into an application
> >
> >(This doesn't have to be in Self. Perhaps someone can point me to a
> >notation for describing prototypical systems - analogous to UML for
> >OO systems?)
> >
> >So for example in the real world, things change and perhaps even in
> >the evolutionary exploratory Self environment, you may get
> >brittleness in the "older" parts of the application. Part of the
> >analysis is to try and perceive the potential for change and so
> >design in the flexibility. I was wondering what techniques people had
> >used to pre-empt these issues (eg. inflexibility) in the prototypical
> >world?
> >
> >>  It would be very interesting to go through all the patterns in the
> >>  "Design Patterns" book (which I have just read) and look at them
> >from
> >>  the viewpoint of a prototype based language. I'll try to do so
> >later,
> >Now I would be most interested on that!
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
>      David Ungar
>      Sun Microsystems Laboratories
>      (650) 336-2618

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